Whistle hand
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Justylove
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Finger grip on left hand. Was funny as I had a guy come and watch me and he said that the only advice he'd give me is to not raise my right hand when signalling for an IFK as it might backfire on me if I needed to hit the whistle quickly.
He was suitably embarrassed when I told him I was left handed and had the whistle in my left hand at all times....
He was suitably embarrassed when I told him I was left handed and had the whistle in my left hand at all times....
Matey was obviously looking very hard for a development point.Finger grip on left hand. Was funny as I had a guy come and watch me and he said that the only advice he'd give me is to not raise my right hand when signalling for an IFK as it might backfire on me if I needed to hit the whistle quickly.
He was suitably embarrassed when I told him I was left handed and had the whistle in my left hand at all times....
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How did you manage to find a left handed whistle? I could never find oneFinger grip on left hand. Was funny as I had a guy come and watch me and he said that the only advice he'd give me is to not raise my right hand when signalling for an IFK as it might backfire on me if I needed to hit the whistle quickly.
He was suitably embarrassed when I told him I was left handed and had the whistle in my left hand at all times....
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Huh. Sounds like off advice to me anyway. I always raise the arm away from where I want to look so it won't be in the way.Finger grip on left hand. Was funny as I had a guy come and watch me and he said that the only advice he'd give me is to not raise my right hand when signalling for an IFK as it might backfire on me if I needed to hit the whistle quickly.
He was suitably embarrassed when I told him I was left handed and had the whistle in my left hand at all times....
As for the whistle I use two with a strap or rings between and hold them. I tend to move the whistle more or less like I would move a flag as an AR, so that it is in the hand that I am least likely to want to signal with. Not something I ever tried to do on purpose, but just kind of happened once I went to holding the whistle instead of using a wrist lanyard. (I've never tried a finger grip as I don't like the idea of it clamped on my fingers. Who knows, I might like it if I tried it, as I thought holding the whistle without a lanyard was crazy before I tried it . . .)
Lol..
I exclusively hold my whistle in my right hand and I can assure you I have never had a problem with not being able to whistle quick enough!!!!
In fact the much touted (2nd) best in the Biz Mr Oliver uses a wrist lanyard so he obviously doesn't swap whistle hand either.
I'm sorry but if you have had that as development advice discard it immediately as what a total crock of pointlessness. To think trees were potentially cut down to write that cr*p
I exclusively hold my whistle in my right hand and I can assure you I have never had a problem with not being able to whistle quick enough!!!!
In fact the much touted (2nd) best in the Biz Mr Oliver uses a wrist lanyard so he obviously doesn't swap whistle hand either.
I'm sorry but if you have had that as development advice discard it immediately as what a total crock of pointlessness. To think trees were potentially cut down to write that cr*p
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It's amazing certain things that some decide there is a "right" way to do--which may even be at odds with how many of the best in the business do it.
Anubis
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Lol..
I exclusively hold my whistle in my right hand and I can assure you I have never had a problem with not being able to whistle quick enough!!!!
In fact the much touted (2nd) best in the Biz Mr Oliver uses a wrist lanyard so he obviously doesn't swap whistle hand either.
I'm sorry but if you have had that as development advice discard it immediately as what a total crock of pointlessness. To think trees were potentially cut down to write that cr*p
As per I like to see a why, I have found one
its not so much the speed, but the selling of the call. Idfk indeed, goes straight into net, to whistle, someone would need bring down the hand, then put it back up to signify why no goal
as opppsed to being able to blow, and never have to lower the offside idfk restart signal.
Given many of the top referees in the world use a lanyard, or something else to attach the whistle to a specific hand, only using one hand clearly hasn't held them back.
Never once happened in one of my games (idfk starightbin the goal) nor have I ever seen it happen in a game and I am a former season ticket holder travelled all round the country watching and sky sports subscriber so I have seen a lot of football. So for the 1 in 1000000 times it happens, as development advice it is worthless. And I emphasise this, development is about how one improves as a referee. This does not improve the referee in anyway.
I'd say anyone going as far as to put this in a report, the referee has either been superb and there is so little DA that can be given, or they are a jobsworth and out to get people for anything they can. If you want to close the book, and mention it, cool, whatever, but never in a million years would I want to see it in a report unless it had a profound affect on the game which even in your example is most unlikely.
Anubis
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i am agreeing its no worth a mention, just trying justify why it would
There was the offside restart goal at a youth WC two year ago, no idea where whistle was but ref had lowered hand, goal, chaos
Also happened at a live Hearts Celtic game, fk for high boot, no contact, goal. again, no idea where whistle was but hand came down, maybe to blow whistle
As an observer I would ask both of those referees particularly the one around the PA how clear they were that it was an idfk.
Obviously the law now says the hand can be lowered if clear not going in goal so in each of those cases I'd be looking to see when the hand was lowered, before or after, because that is where the development comes from.
I was pinged for giving "policeman signals" in my observation report that came through yesterday - pointing for the direction of the foul with one hand and the location with the other simultaneously. The observers clear preference and development advice being that you should signal direction THEN position if needed...thoughts?
Technically it is correct advice based on LOTG signals.
To me that is more coaching advice. Did it affect the game? I can be fairly certain, no. So it's more about making that step to looking more like a L4 ref, and being more crisp with signals. So, Pinged? No. Good advice? Yes.
As I recall, it is also in the event that if there's a contested incident, you can blow the whistle whilst maintaining the signal.
Say, there's a contested throw in, or there's a 50-50 foul and there's a bit of melodramatic handbags as they faff about over the ball. Rather than blow the whistle, signal, witness the handbags, cancel signal, blow whistle, signal again, the idea is just blow whistle, signal, argy-bargy, blow whistle again whilst maintaining the signal - which you can't do if you have the whistle in your signalling hand.
Then, if they turn to you, as they should do, you've got the signal right there to eradicate confusion and any further silliness gets dealt with.
Thank you.
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My perception is that the overwhelming number refs start that way. It is simple, you always know where it is, and you can't drop it.
Many refs evolve over time on what they do. Some go do the finger clip whistles, and many go to holding the whistle instead of having it attached. (I thought that was silly, but as I saw more high level refs doing it, I gave it a try and found I really liked not having it around my wrist and being able to whistle with either hand if I wanted, or even leave it in my mouth on rare occasion.)
It's really about personal preference. If you watch top levels you will see wrist lanyards, finger clips, and refs holding whistles (which can be a pair of whistles or now very commonly the Valkeen with its funky handle). While it appears to me the most common at top levels is holding the whistle, all of them get used and anyone telling you to do it a particular way is offering a personal view and nothing more.