when a goal keeper can score

[nathan.ffc]

hi , if there is a strong wind and a goalkeeper kicks the ball from his hands (fly kicks) and the ball bounces over the opposition goal keeper and the ball goes into the net , is it a goal kick to the opposing team . Also what is the situation from a drop kick .
many thanks , just want to be clear

 

[socal lurker]

These are the kind of Qs I would suggest a new ref pore through the Laws for. What reason under the Laws would it not be a goal?

 

[ChasObserverRefDeveloper]

hi , if there is a strong wind and a goalkeeper kicks the ball from his hands (fly kicks) and the ball bounces over the opposition goal keeper and the ball goes into the net , is it a goal kick to the opposing team . Also what is the situation from a drop kick .
many thanks , just want to be clear

As @socal lurker has said, it is good to try to find answers in the Laws of the Game.
Not clear what you see as the difference between a fly kick and a drop kick?
In either case, the ball is in play, no offence has occurred, so a goal is the outcome.

 

[Cowboy Ref]

I'm not sure what you mean by fly kick. A punt is what you mean perhaps? A goal is a goal. I can't find anything in the laws of the game regarding goals scored by a punt. I would say goal

 

[one]

I empathise with the OP a little here.
If the goalkeeper throws the ball (implied with the hands), from his penalty area, into the opponents goal, ball is in play and no offence has been committed. But the laws are clear with an exception clause in law 10 that a goalkick is the outcome.

However given there are no specifics/exceptions for when the ball is kicked (drop kick or fly kick) then the usual law 10 applies and a goal is awarded.

Where I am, fly kick is when the keeper throws the ball directly to foot and kicks the ball in the air befor touching the ground. Drop kick is the keeper drops the ball on the ground and kicks it immediately on the bounce. So the difference is the ball touching the ground before the kick. But it makes no difference here.

 

[Peter Grove]

I'm not sure what you mean by fly kick. A punt is what you mean perhaps? A goal is a goal. I can't find anything in the laws of the game regarding goals scored by a punt. I would say goal

A fly kick is as described by @one. We might understand what 'punt' means in this context but in terms of soccer it's not the most commonly used term here. Perhaps it is for people from the US?

In the UK, I would say 'punt' is more often used to designate a kind of boat.

 

[RefereeX]

In footballing terms I'd consider a punt to be a shot with the end of the toes not the top of the toes not sure that makes any difference in law to anything...

 

[Kes]

In footballing terms I'd consider a punt to be a shot with the end of the toes not the top of the toes not sure that makes any difference in law to anything...

No chance.

What you're describing there is a "toe-poke".

 

[JamesL]

No chance.

What you're describing there is a "toe-poke".

Toey-bunger

 

[Homer Ref]

Toey-bunger

No way I am adding that to my search history...

 

[one]

No way I am adding that to my search history...

Especially if Marge occasionally checks it.

 

[socal lurker]

In my experience in the US, a “punt” is the ball dropped and not touching the ground and a drop kick is the GK half volley from dropping to the ground and kicking on the bounce up. (I believe these are both the technical terms used in American football—the kind with the funny shaped ball.)

 

[Cowboy Ref]

Its the English equivalent of a rugby ball. I still prefer punt over fly kick-sounds more like a volley while jumping than a punt itself. I'll stick to my American dictionary.