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What can't players shout?

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Josh the referee

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I've seen this a few times on the forum recently and thought I better ask.

What exactly can't a player shout? Is it only 'Mine'?

And if they do, it results in an indirect free-kick?
 
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Anything intended to influence the actions of an opposition player

In the right scenario, mine/leave it could be penalised. Generally it won't be though as they'll be aimed at their own teammates.

I've penalised this a few times, for shouts such as dummy or man on which caused the player to lose possession as a result of the shout
 
Hopefully if its been seen on the forum, the overiding, and correct, interpretation has been verbal distraction is an offence

Its urban football myth that, leave it, mine, etc, are offences, they can be, but on the rare occasions I have encountered anything its been for shouting " raaaaaaaaaaaaaa" as a player goes to kick or so on.

I can honest say in a million years of being involved, or watching, the instances of verbal distraction are very very low
 
Anubis said:
Hopefully if its been seen on the forum, the overiding, and correct, interpretation has been verbal distraction is an offence

Its urban football myth that, leave it, mine, etc, are offences, they can be, but on the rare occasions I have encountered anything its been for shouting " raaaaaaaaaaaaaa" as a player goes to kick or so on.

I can honest say in a million years of being involved, or watching, the instances of verbal distraction are very very low
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That is also my experience.
 
Very rare. The one I have had a few times at grassroots is a silly player shouting “aaaaaa” while the ball is in the air to put someone off. In hobby leagues where the player is clueless, other players have not even noticed, I will have a word on the run to cut it out. In hobby leagues, on one hand players are not expecting a whistle, but on the other hand it is important to act to prevent it happening again.
 
Redster said:
I was AR on a match recently where I flagged because a player near me coming in to challenge for a high ball barked like a dog so loudly the opponent under the ball took his eyes off and turned around.
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Did you follow up the call by instructing the referee to issue a yc?
 
Anubis said:
Did you follow up the call by instructing the referee to issue a yc?
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An assistant can't instruct the referee to do anything. But yes, when the referee comes over and asks why has happened he should be saying "yellow card and caution for x player". If the referee chooses not to that is his call, but at least you've given him the required information and what you think the action should be.
 
RustyRef said:
An assistant can't instruct the referee to do anything. But yes, when the referee comes over and asks why has happened he should be saying "yellow card and caution for x player". If the referee chooses not to that is his call, but at least you've given him the required information and what you think the action should be.
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Ok am well aware of this and you have phrased it in the manner I intended,

its exactly the same, the instruction given out is, idfk yellow card blue 8. That is an instruction, but absolutely its then down to the referee.
 
Josh the referee said:
I've seen this a few times on the forum recently and thought I better ask.

What exactly can't a player shout? Is it only 'Mine'?

And if they do, it results in an indirect free-kick?
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As already described, the words used are totally irrelevant (so long as they're not Offensive, Insulting or Abusive). It's the intention to distract an opponent that is the offence, not the words used. :)
 
I 'instructed' my boss to give me a pay rise. Not sure.

As for OP, let's just stick to the wording of lotg. One offence is "verbally distracts an opponent during play or at a restart", intent, the words used, or if it is shouted or not are irrelevant. Though intent is often considered.
Of course there is always offinabus or dissent to consider for verbal offences.
 
Kes said:
As already described, the words used are totally irrelevant (so long as they're not Offensive, Insulting or Abusive). It's the intention to distract an opponent that is the offence, not the words used. :)
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I wouldn't say it's the intention of distracting your opponent that matters so much as the act of distracting your opponent.
 
Kes said:
Yep. The laws don't actually mention intention. Moreover though, as with all things, it's down to ITOOTR since any player can claim to have been distracted. 😉🙂
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Absolutely. I determine whether or not a player has distracted an opponent. Neither the player nor the opponent has a say in that.
 
There is one player locally that shouts his name for every header or long ball. Unfortunately, he very rarely challenges or plays at the ball, he just shouts it as his opponent is about to jump, run or kick etc. I think I'm the only ref that ever penalises him for it
 
Gamespoiler said:
There is one player locally that shouts his name for every header or long ball. Unfortunately, he very rarely challenges or plays at the ball, he just shouts it as his opponent is about to jump, run or kick etc. I think I'm the only ref that ever penalises him for it
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obviously this is a yhtbt moment so can I ask, do the opponents appeal for the fk?

if you feel it needs punished, thats all that matters, i just think it falls under the expected behaviour on a football pitch and not sure ( without being there) if i be too keen to blow
 
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