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Curious what folks in the UK thought of the SFP red via VAR.
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I don’t hate the intervention, given that it’s nasty contact of studs down Achilles and also causes the players ankle to buckle, but equally, I do think that’s a very low bar again for intervention which until the previous game of the evening, we hadn’t seen
ladbroke8745
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What i don't like about it is other similar challenges have gone completely untouched.
Messi, for example.
The German whose foot was head height.
There were other similar challenges but cant remember who by...
Im seeing zero consistency from this group of officials.
Messi, for example.
The German whose foot was head height.
There were other similar challenges but cant remember who by...
Im seeing zero consistency from this group of officials.
Messi's wasn't even close to being similar to this.
one
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And that is not the whole story. The studs were raked down the calf before they ended up there.
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Appreciate the responses. I’m surprised by those who say, in a vacuum, that this shouldn’t be red. I do see some validity in questioning this as a VAR intervention in the context of how things have been called in this WC, and even an argument that the foul/discipline bar in this WC has been such that this is inconsistent. It’s a touch result for a player who clearly was not being g malicious, but I agreed with the red card. Of course, on this side of the pond, it is very much hated.
RefIADad
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That’s the problem with VAR. They use Hollywood slow motion to judge these, and everything looks worse than it is.
The system simply does not work.
Peter Grove
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For me, the main problem with this (and many other VAR OFR's we see) is that they seem to be going against the VAR protocol's stipulations for the use of slow motion.
This is what it says.
"The VAR can ‘check’ the footage in normal speed and/or in slow motion but, in general, slow motion replays should only be used for facts, e.g. position of offence/player, point of contact for physical offences and handball, ball out of play (including goal/no goal); normal speed should be used for the ‘intensity’ of an offence or to decide if it was a handball offence"
The reason for this, as is often mentioned, is that physical contact fouls always look worse in slow motion.
This is what it says.
"The VAR can ‘check’ the footage in normal speed and/or in slow motion but, in general, slow motion replays should only be used for facts, e.g. position of offence/player, point of contact for physical offences and handball, ball out of play (including goal/no goal); normal speed should be used for the ‘intensity’ of an offence or to decide if it was a handball offence"
The reason for this, as is often mentioned, is that physical contact fouls always look worse in slow motion.
Where's the controversy here? Not one person here has said it isn't a red card. Just a couple of people with a gripe at the VAR intervention inconsistency.
Nevermind, turns out I’m terrible at reading comprehension lol. I stick by my main point though.
RefIADad
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I don’t necessarily have a major issue with the Balogun SFP once the heat of my US fandom wore off. Enough of the considerations were met. I think it’s incredibly unlucky that the Bosnian player placed his leg right underneath Balogun’s as both were making a soccer play, but the check the box nature of considerations make this hard to not legally consider as SFP.
My real issue is seeing this as SFP while Messi’s foul in the Algeria game - which had a measure of intent to it - wasn’t even cautioned. Had Messi been shown yellow as he should have been, I think the shouts of inconsistency and star treatment would have been far less.
My real issue is seeing this as SFP while Messi’s foul in the Algeria game - which had a measure of intent to it - wasn’t even cautioned. Had Messi been shown yellow as he should have been, I think the shouts of inconsistency and star treatment would have been far less.