deusex
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Ha, touche sir. I agree that the FA were bound by their own rules and could do nothing having set them.
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Ha, touche sir. I agree that the FA were bound by their own rules and could do nothing having set them.
one
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Let me throw a spanner in the works. No one ever gets physically hurt by racial abuse but the punishment for it is rightly very high. For me spitting has a similar connotation and should not be punished lightly.
As for my preference, i'd rather get a black eye from a punch than being spat at on the face.
As for my preference, i'd rather get a black eye from a punch than being spat at on the face.
SM
The avuncular one
Interesting point @one. However, I would say it is a little bit oranges and tractors.
Discrimination and why people are affected by it is complicated and sometimes drenched in the blood, tears and ignorant stupidity of history. Spitting by contrast is quite simple. It is just gross, unhygienic and potentially infectious.
Discrimination and why people are affected by it is complicated and sometimes drenched in the blood, tears and ignorant stupidity of history. Spitting by contrast is quite simple. It is just gross, unhygienic and potentially infectious.
SM
The avuncular one
Are you saying you would send players off for these?
http://www.amusingplanet.com/2011/10/rude-hand-gestures-of-world.html
http://www.amusingplanet.com/2011/10/rude-hand-gestures-of-world.html
In the right context... perhaps.
I've seen the Arab 5-1 thing... and I had no idea why it started a riot when it happened (I was a spectator at a game of Arabs v Hispanics a few years back... one of the Hispanics did that to one to one of the Arabs, and a riot broke out between the teams with 6-7 of the Arabs trying to kill the one Hispanic guy)... Now I understand why.
I've seen the Arab 5-1 thing... and I had no idea why it started a riot when it happened (I was a spectator at a game of Arabs v Hispanics a few years back... one of the Hispanics did that to one to one of the Arabs, and a riot broke out between the teams with 6-7 of the Arabs trying to kill the one Hispanic guy)... Now I understand why.
SM
The avuncular one
the point I am making is that you cannot apply all of the worlds offensive gestures etc to a game which is played in the uk. It would be insane, players would be sent off left right and centre. And not know why.
Spitting in the uk is considered disgusting. Don't try and read any other meanings into it.
Spitting in the uk is considered disgusting. Don't try and read any other meanings into it.
deusex
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Racial abuse punishments are so high because the Premier League brand has to be maintained, and that's fine.
However in the real world you will (quite rightly) be in more trouble for punching somone than you will racially abusing them.
As for you last comment, I can only assume you've never had a proper punch in the face....
one
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@deusex I have been 
Twice. Once as a stupid young man and another time actually on the FOP in my playing days, albeit from behind so i never saw it coming. But that's another story. I have however never been spat at in the face.
I dont see how anyone cant see being spat at highly offensive (in opposed to disgusting). Maybe its just me or just the way I was brought up. But again if it has its own special case in the LOTG and many other sports, there must be something in it.
Twice. Once as a stupid young man and another time actually on the FOP in my playing days, albeit from behind so i never saw it coming. But that's another story. I have however never been spat at in the face.I dont see how anyone cant see being spat at highly offensive (in opposed to disgusting). Maybe its just me or just the way I was brought up. But again if it has its own special case in the LOTG and many other sports, there must be something in it.
one
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May I insert the word 'physically' just before the word 'hurt'?
Can I point out that it is also legally assault !