Trainer coming on
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Yes, you have no choice. There is no especially; the fact is that if the trainer comes on to tend to an injury, the player must leave the FOP.
I have coached my team from U7 through to U11 this season & in all that time have never once been asked or indeed witnessed a player being asked to leave the FOP after a trainer has tended to an injury..............I for one will not be asking any juniors to leave the FOP after being treated for injury 
I have coached my team from U7 through to U11 this season & in all that time have never once been asked or indeed witnessed a player being asked to leave the FOP after a trainer has tended to an injury..............I for one will not be asking any juniors to leave the FOP after being treated for injury
May I ask why?
Usually, the player/child is upset & quite often tearful & being hurt...........they don't generally feign injuries to gain an advantage. Asking them to leave the FOP to receive or after receipt of medical attention to continue with the game, may appear as a punishment to a 7 or 8 year old, so I wouldn't want that.
It may be in the rules, but you would need to be a complete B****** to administer that letter of the law to a child in those circumstances. A touch of common sense is appropriate
It may be in the rules, but you would need to be a complete B****** to administer that letter of the law to a child in those circumstances. A touch of common sense is appropriate
It isn't about them feigning, it's about their safety. If they're so hurt that they need to bring someone on to help them off the pitch and to eventually care for their injury, then they shouldn't be allowed to stay on the fop. Why can't the coach just give them a substitution if they're that worried about playing a man errr, boy down?
Usually the treatment administered is an arm around the shoulder & a 'there, there good lad up you get' so the necessity to leave the FOP for any significant medical attention is not an issue..........of course if it was, the game is designed for Roll On/Roll Off subs, so playing with a player less is not the issue here, it's the adhering to the letter of the law & asking a player who has had a trainer administer attention leave the FOP.
Like I said, I don't feel that this is necessary & it would seem a little OTT to me if a Ref officiating one of my games insisted on it, so hence that is why I won't be following this example, but each to their own
Like I said, I don't feel that this is necessary & it would seem a little OTT to me if a Ref officiating one of my games insisted on it, so hence that is why I won't be following this example, but each to their own
MattyontheWhistle
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I coach and referee and junior level, and anything with RoRo subs it seems pretty pointless to ask the player to leave the FOP.
I won;t allow coaches to enter without a signal from me, which is usually given at the time I blow to stop play. I am a little more quick to stop play with kids than seniors though.
A couple of seconds to make sure no bones broken and no blood being spilled, and he is either taken off, or left on - that is up to coach.
Usually, and depending on age, coach runs on, picks kid up, runs off shouting 'Jimmy, Jimmy! Get your jacket off and get in midfield!"
Never have I been criticised for allowing too long with an injured child.
I won;t allow coaches to enter without a signal from me, which is usually given at the time I blow to stop play. I am a little more quick to stop play with kids than seniors though.
A couple of seconds to make sure no bones broken and no blood being spilled, and he is either taken off, or left on - that is up to coach.
Usually, and depending on age, coach runs on, picks kid up, runs off shouting 'Jimmy, Jimmy! Get your jacket off and get in midfield!"
Never have I been criticised for allowing too long with an injured child.
To be fair, injured is a tricky word to use here. More often, it's closer to either frightened or upset than injured. I was refereeing an U16 girls match the other day and the one girl goes down like she's been shot, bawling her eyes out and absolutely howling in pain. I obviously stop play right away as she's rolling around in agony and call on the coach/trainer. He comes on quickly to tend to what is clearly a very bad injury and.... turns out she had a cramp in her calf. He just looks and me and I at him like "what the hell did we get ourselves into?" and he tells her to get up and stop moaning. I must admit, I laughed. And yes, she had to leave the FOP 
MattyontheWhistle
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With kids I think the better safe than sorry approach is the best.
For me it is totally dependent on the age group of the players involved and whether or not in my opinion they are overplaying the injury.
I had one the other week that was clearly not hurt as their wad minimal contact after a fairly contested tackle. He stayed down whilst the other team had the ball and I watched him glance up to see who had the ball.
The attack broke down and his team regained the ball, as they played the though ball to the forward I blew up and pointed out the player who was now miraculously on his knees getting up.
You can imagine the grief.......yet none of it came my way.
I had one the other week that was clearly not hurt as their wad minimal contact after a fairly contested tackle. He stayed down whilst the other team had the ball and I watched him glance up to see who had the ball.
The attack broke down and his team regained the ball, as they played the though ball to the forward I blew up and pointed out the player who was now miraculously on his knees getting up.
You can imagine the grief.......yet none of it came my way.
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