Spurs Vs Leeds
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Darlow almost ran out of time again I noticed not long afterwards.
I do have to ask though, how can Gillett view the penalty at the monitor and not think the penalty for a boot to the head is not a yellow card(at least) I will never know.
I was surprised the penalty needed to go to VAR and wasn’t at least a yellow. Probably should’ve been stopped a lot sooner too.
Great decision with the final penalty shout though. Looked a blatant pen until you see the replays
Honesty at this point it feels like they just default to no PK and let VAR look at it vs making a fantastic refereeing decision
ladbroke8745
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I dont think it was a corner though. Not 100% sure Leeds player even touched it but I definitely thought I saw a touch after the challenge by Spurs player before it went out.
I was thinking the same thing. So imagine VAR intervenes to give a goal kick (which is coming in the World Cup) instead of a corner and the ref gives the VAR signal and points for a goal kick but his announcement is drowned out by a roaring Spurs stadium who thinks he's pointing to the spot.
The protocol on The IFAB website just says they can review a "clearly incorrectly awarded corner kick if the decision can be changed immediately and without delaying the restart (competition option)".
It also says they can't change the decision if the corner is taken quickly.
We'll find out at the world cup how that will actually work but I think as long as it's done quickly they can check/change any wrong corner decision.
bester
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They will check every non-obvious corner decision and will take as long as they need to. If there's doubt there is no way they will allow a quick one.
What it may change is that for 50/50 decision you would give it as a corner on field rather than normally going with the 'safe' goal kick.
What it may change is that for 50/50 decision you would give it as a corner on field rather than normally going with the 'safe' goal kick.
one
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My understanding is corner kicks or goal kicks can only change if the restart has NOT been taken already. I also understand the wording means the referee does not delay taking the restart so that VAR can check it. The problem I see with this, for close calls, I see teams rushing to take the restart quickly so the VAR doesn't change it and give it to opponents. This can also be a good thing.
The worst outcome will be referees asking players not to take the restart so that VAR can check it.
The worst outcome will be referees asking players not to take the restart so that VAR can check it.
Alex_the_ref
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My understanding is corner kicks or goal kicks can only change if the restart has NOT been taken already. I also understand the wording means the referee does not delay taking the restart so that VAR can check it. The problem I see with this, for close calls, I see teams rushing to take the restart quickly so the VAR doesn't change it and give it to opponents. This can also be a good thing.
Or one of the opposition will conveniently need to do his shoelaces up or stand in the way stop it being taken so they have time to check
Or one of the opposition will conveniently need to do his shoelaces up or stand in the way stop it being taken so they have time to check
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it’s one way. CKs can be corrected to GKs. But GKs cannot be corrected to CKs.
I suspect if the VAR raises doubt but hasn’t finalized, the R will pause the CK very briefly. But they aren’t going to do long pauses where a touch is really unclear. And frankly,y, where there is any doubt, a smart defender is going to run to the corner or helpfully throw a second ball over to delay the CK to make sure the VAR has time to check.
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one
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Which is pretty much everytime the need to check it. No need to check for obvious ones. The whole thing was brought in for when there is doubt.
Or a mandatory extra drinks/TV advertisement break
I am hoping once we dont have to watch footbal in America we dont have to watch American football. I really enjoy watching a whole half of football without commercials.
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Why is this being blamed on America? FIFA is the sole decision-maker, not anyone in the US. (And I agree with you it is really stupid.) The most mysterious thing to me, with FIFA being FIFA, is that they seem to have decided on this only after they had made the major TV rights agreements instead of using as leverage to get paid more for the game rights because there can be commercials to sell in the middle of the half.
I’m also curious what broadcasters actually do. The rumblings I’ve heard in the US were that the broadcasters weren’t planning on using them as a commercial break, presumably because they think the core fan base will be offended. But I still don’t want a break to listen to the TV yahoos blather.
I've upset @socal lurker before by 'blaming America' for stuff. It's difficult to avoid being misunderstood. From our side of the pond, I get irritated by the 'the UK copying whatever happens in America'. I've always felt that VAR has an American feel to it, despite technology being used in other sports like cricket and rugby. What surprised me at the time, was the speed with which FIFA seemed to adopt VAR. It seemed to be very rushed and an enormous change in the game, all at once. I couldn't help feel that FIFA's motivation was to make the game more appealing to America (and possibly other countries) given the potential size of the commercial market over there. Let's face it, FIFA has only ever been interested in the commercials, although I think they've moved onto political influence now rather than just money
I don't know, I might be completely wrong about all of this
On another note, the EPL referees of late have taken KMD's to the next level. They're simply not making them! The conspiracy theorist in me is saying, 'they're leaving it to VAR on purpose to justify its existence'. I know this surely can't be true, but conspiracy thoughts stem from watching refereeing I can't otherwise make sense of
I don't know, I might be completely wrong about all of this
On another note, the EPL referees of late have taken KMD's to the next level. They're simply not making them! The conspiracy theorist in me is saying, 'they're leaving it to VAR on purpose to justify its existence'. I know this surely can't be true, but conspiracy thoughts stem from watching refereeing I can't otherwise make sense of
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