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Sin bins
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Good point.
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Wrote that on the phone running out of battery, so a bit light on detail. He was cautioned for his reaction to me when I had to intervene to make them take the penalty. I'd still be there now if I had waited any longer. Captain had walked away - it was U16. Dissent caution was correct, only person who wasn't happy with the call after the game was the player. My hope is that for his football future he learns the lesson - it was such a silly card especially as the penalty put them 3-0 up. Down to ten they conceded one fairly quickly, but there wasn't enough time left to suffer further.
I had a vision of 2 lads having a pop at each other. Most arguments in football tend to be aggressive but I think I prefer DRP anyway in hindsight. Either way get them both in the book.
That said given the further explanation dissent may have been the right decision although still sounds like one of them got away with being a prat
What you doing binning players in leagues not operating temporary dismissals
Unless you referee at Step5 or above, there will be no such leagues in England.
It will be mandatory for all adults league (Saturday and Sunday), all youth leagues, so no exception. The standard code of rules is being amended to reflect this.
Will any leagues step 5 or above choose to implement sin bins? Are they forbidden from doing so?
It was a tongue in cheek reply to what was actually written that suggested he had binned 10 players in leagues that were not operating sin bin. I am aware that sin bins are coming in
They will not be implementing them.
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Just another query, i am not sure if i am reading this correctly. You start by giving a IDFK for dissent, is this with or without the caution or sin bin? You cant give one without the other.
zarathustra
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If you are giving an IDFK without a caution (and sin bin where appropriate) then you are incorrect in law and the players are right to question the legality of it.
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zarathustra
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Then I guess the question we should be asking The FA is why not.
I appreciate that there needs to be a gradual implementation to iron out the process etc, but if they are serious about dealing with dissent then they really need to roll this out all the way to the top eventually.
Except that would require IFAB to make further modifications to the LOTG. Currently sin bins are only sanctioned for “youth, disability and grassroots” football.
zarathustra
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Have the FA/Premier League not already contradicted the VAR protocol for next season anyway? Or is it within the LOTG to not allow the referee to go to the screen?
They won't tackle dissent at the top level because they absolutely must keep their product (the players) on the FOP
Despite farting about with Sin Bins, vitriolic abuse aimed towards referees won't change at any level because the professional game sets the example to players the world over. Maybe SB's will reduce the number of low level C2's, but the change as papering over the cracks because they don't want to deal with abusive behaviour from professionals for commercial reasons
Despite farting about with Sin Bins, vitriolic abuse aimed towards referees won't change at any level because the professional game sets the example to players the world over. Maybe SB's will reduce the number of low level C2's, but the change as papering over the cracks because they don't want to deal with abusive behaviour from professionals for commercial reasons
They're not "not allowing" referees to go to the screen, they're encouraging them not to do so unless necessary. One of those would be contradicting the LOTG, but instead, they're simply offering guidance regarding how it should be implemented. And presumably, compliance (or not) with that directive, will be reflected in the FA's observation reporting.....
To develop this a bit further. It's increasingly apparent to me that we're all slaves to an amateurish rule book, the guidance on which is increasingly influenced by commercial forces in the professional game. We all know it would be reasonably straight forward to abate verbal offences, but it categorically must come from top down. Players simply copy the behaviour of their idols. Full stop
Referees are valiantly trying to manage very difficult games, following absurd guidance that ultimately has originates from very questionable motives
Referees are valiantly trying to manage very difficult games, following absurd guidance that ultimately has originates from very questionable motives
Is that meant to be "one hundred paying spectators" or "one thousand"? How much are they paying for these tickets, a couple of pound or dozens?
Because I would certainly see the former as grassroots, if clubs remain largely amateur/volunteer/non-profit and teams are locally based using players who grew up in the area.
Seems like the FA have thought the same.