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DanCohen17
Simply The Best
Hardly. All PL officials now only wear one watch as they have to wear the GDS watch on their other wrist (when at PL grounds), which doesn't indicate time.
Additionally, he's linked by microphone to 3 other officials who will all have a minimum of 1 watch. Furthermore, there is massive clock on the screens around the ground!
Ref-Al
Member
Not risky at all. He has 3 assistants that can tell him the time if need be. Really, in this day and age at that level the referee could just about get away with not starting his watch until the 4th official holds the board up with the minimum added time! Even at park level a watch stopping is not the end of the world. As long as you have 1 watch that tells the time you can figure it out. "I kicked off at 2pm, at 2:45pm I've reached the end of the first half." Add a minute or two on depending on what you feel is warranted and blow up.
Yampy
RefChat Addict
Slightly different object, but I saw Michael Oliver had lost his pen in a recent televised game. He was cautioning a player and reached into his top pocket but it wasn't there. He calmly showed the yellow and restarted the game. He obviously communicated this to his assistants (one will have noted the caution in his book anyway) and when one of the substitutes was about to enter the FOP, the 4th official gave him a new pen to pass to the ref.
(I think it was the Spurs v Everton game - check the Eto'o/Osman substitution and the Chiriches caution before it - but I could be wrong)
DanCohen17
Simply The Best
At the very top level, the man in the middle needs his 2 cards and a whistle - that's it. Can get away with having nothing else, due to the buzzer flags & comms kit! Obviously, it's not encouraged, but it is possible!
Yampy
RefChat Addict
Agree, 2 of everything. I take out two whistles (if you drop one onto a muddy field would you want to blow it again before cleaning?), 2 coins for the toss, two notebooks, 2 sets of cards and you can never have too many pencils! (Argos was always a good source of pencils and well worth regular visits to browse the catalog). I use two watches, after all most of us have two wrists so, why not use them. I apply this rule to middles and lines (and 4th Official if I ever get one) because I always work on the premise that the man in the middle could get crocked and I have to take over. Be prepared!
DanCohen17
Simply The Best
I fully and wholeheartedly agree with the premise of two of everything at all levels below PGMOL. Until that level, officials aren't mic'd up so it's a lot harder to communicate. I'm sure that none of the SG/NG refs choose to leave equipment behind, but it's a damn sight easier for them to get away with it!
PinnerPaul
RefChat Addict
Coin?
As I asked on another thread, why do you need two sets of cards - how on earth can you lose your cards on fop?!
As I asked on another thread, why do you need two sets of cards - how on earth can you lose your cards on fop?!
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Yampy
RefChat Addict
Coin can get lost during a game and it's a cup game which goes to extra time. I've heard of (and observed) referees losing coins between the dressing rooms and the FOP before the game has even started.
PinnerPaul
RefChat Addict
Sorry, my post was related to above who said top level could get away with just taking cards and whistle on to FOP!
STILL don't understand the spare cards though! ;-)
Agree about coin, I'm always losing them from my pockets!
STILL don't understand the spare cards though! ;-)
Agree about coin, I'm always losing them from my pockets!
I had an U16 game a few weeks ago which had one team that moaned about everything. It was just starting to get a bit feisty and so I was concentrating hard as the tackles started flying in. Behind me a player from the moaners was saying "ref.......ref....ref...ref..ref, ref, ref." Eventually the ball went out of play and I spun round, really quite cross, to ask him what on earth his problem was. "I've found your coin, ref," he said.
RegalRef
Politically Incorrect
A couple of reasons for spare cards Paul - some people may write on the cards using the official RefChat card skins available in the RefChat shop (shameless plug there @Ross ) and in a particularly feisty game you may run out of space.
More commonly, some refs keep a red and yellow together in a separate pocket for the '3 card trick'.
If you have already cautioned a player and want to give a second caution and red it is much quicker and easier to pull these from another pocket where they are together on their own than fumble in multiple pockets or a wallet.
I do this myself, not just for the lack of fumbling which can make you look uncertain, but more so so I can keep my eye on the game and any potential aggro that may come about fro a player earning a second caution - you can garuntee somebody will be very unhappy about it. So I tend to keep a red and yellow in my top left pocket for just such an occasion.
Personal preference though really.
DanCohen17
Simply The Best
In answer to the coin at top level - assistant! In my games, I'd always take a coin, whether I was middle or line! Whenever I was middle, I'd always get my AR to take a coin, just in case I lost mine.
As I said, SG/NG refs need only whistle & cards!
As I said, SG/NG refs need only whistle & cards!