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PSV v LIV

bester

bester

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69th minute

Full back goes through back of Danns and then plays the ball. Fairly clear recklese challenge.

Assistant 5 yards away flags for a throw-in

Both players treated and allowed to stay on; game restarts with a throw-in.
 
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Had a real dead rubber air, with the ref not wanting to get his cards out unnecessarily, although I don't really see what was optional about a yellow for that one.

At least it did until he chose not to take a definitely available "covering defender" excuse not to send a Liv defender off for DOGSO...
 
RefereeX said:
Be serious 😆
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Do I think it was a covering defender? Probably not.

But in a game where you're already not taking it seriously (as described in the top post of this thread) by making laws up to allow treatment but not show an obvious yellow card, there was enough of a covering defender that it didn't need to be red. No one would have cared if he'd gone yellow, he could easily have justified it to an observer and it would absolutely have been less of a mistake than missing the yellow on Danns.
 
GraemeS said:
Do I think it was a covering defender? Probably not.

But in a game where you're already not taking it seriously (as described in the top post of this thread) by making laws up to allow treatment but not show an obvious yellow card, there was enough of a covering defender that it didn't need to be red. No one would have cared if he'd gone yellow, he could easily have justified it to an observer and it would absolutely have been less of a mistake than missing the yellow on Danns.
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OK, I take your point and I haven't seen the tackle on Danns, but surely at any level 2 wrongs don't make a right. It's a clear enough red for me - any other decision would be wrong.
 
RefereeX said:
OK, I take your point and I haven't seen the tackle on Danns, but surely at any level 2 wrongs don't make a right. It's a clear enough red for me - any other decision would be wrong.
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We talk about high and low thresholds all the time. If you're going to have an almost unrealistically high threshold for a physical offence card in minute ~70 and the game continues to trundle along at roughly the same "temperature", suddenly adjusting your threshold significantly down for a technical offence like DOGSO with a justifiable reason not to give it in minute ~85 is arguably a further wrong in and of itself?
 
I've finally got around to watching the game again and the keeper was so far off his line he would have kicked the ball clear before the striker as the touch was so heavy. I don't see why ref's can't just give it a second to see where the ball ends up. Also, I was calling for young players in general to be given some protection - injuries from poor challenges can resort to long times out of the game which is a shame as most of them between the ages of 18-20 can lose a career from being out injured for 12 months.

Also, I'm not sure why my post was removed. Seems a bit strange to me?
 
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