Yes. I think I would have had that as a deliberate play with the new guidance.Isn't that just absolute ****e attempt to clear?
But that is n‘t one of the criteria that I recall. Am I forgetting somethin?He's saying it goes to number 4 the direction of the ball would've been changed by the play.
I’m geo blocked on the video, so I can only see the still. From the still it looks hard for me to see how it could be a deflection instead of a deliberate play under the new guidance (which is more forgiving for defenders than the guidance of the few years prior, when it would unambiguously have been a “play”). I’ve said before that I think the newest guidance on play vs deflection is much more fair, but it is also much more subjective. And IMO, the videos that were released leave a huge chasm between what is a play and a deflection where a player is attempting to make a play—and referees are going to vary quite a bit on how they see plays in that gray area.Yes. I think I would have had that as a deliberate play with the new guidance.
BUT - I think that football expects offside here imo. And it has done for a very long time.
Usually respect Dale Johnson's explanations but I am struggling to make sense of the last part of the thread:
I don't really see how whom the ball goes to first changes how deliberate a play this is, or not.