The 4th gave it some very animated crabbing and did a lot of “trying way too hard” crouching. But no harm done. Hope he is OK.
Found it a bit odd that Ian Hussin didn't seem to have any treatment from the club physios, normally when a match official gets injured one of the club's physios will try to get them to be able to carry on, just as they would do for one of their players.
Apart from the facts don't back that up. The AR always makes a decision, whether that is offside or not, before VAR can have any involvement, so the AR's roles haven't actually changed at all other than having to delay offside flags. Plus he gave at least one free kick in an attacking area, VAR wouldn't have got involved if he hadn't given it.VAR is running the line anyway so it didn't matter a jot, aside from inconsequential ball in/out of play stuff
Nothing to do with fandom whatsoever. Of course VAR has hugely diminished the responsibility of EPL Assistant Referees. Yes, they support the Referees with fouls and misconduct and routine ball in/out of play, but their KMS input is of no value, other than to give the spectators an indication of little value,Apart from the facts don't back that up. The AR always makes a decision, whether that is offside or not, before VAR can have any involvement, so the AR's roles haven't actually changed at all other than having to delay offside flags. Plus he gave at least one free kick in an attacking area, VAR wouldn't have got involved if he hadn't given it.
Comments around the mantra that VAR has made ARs redundant belong on fan's forums, not on here.
I'm not insulting anyone, merely pointing out that the role of the AR hasn't actually changed other than delaying the flag. Yes, the game has a safety net if they get an offside wrong, but it is no safety net for the ARs as they still get an incorrect KMI for it. There is absolutely no evidence to support a view that ARs deliberately don't indicate offsides as they know VAR will rescue them, and it would be nonsensical for them to do so as they'd still be clobbered for it. It would be akin to deliberately making a mistake at work because you know there are controls in place that will discover and correct it, no rational person would have that mindset.Nothing to do with fandom whatsoever. Of course VAR has hugely diminished the responsibility of EPL Assistant Referees. Yes, they support the Referees with fouls and misconduct and routine ball in/out of play, but their KMS input is of no value, other than to give the spectators an indication of little value,
KMS's are at the very core of our historic responsibility and represent the value we get from the game as Match Officials. Don't diminish this fact by using your moderator position to be insulting please. If you're upset about me calling out the Ref at the Dorking game (tricky subject that, maybe not for the public domain in hindsight), I could accept that, but my observation of how VAR has devalued AR responsibility is entirely valid
You've misunderstoodThere is absolutely no evidence to support a view that ARs deliberately don't indicate offsides as they know VAR will rescue them, and it would be nonsensical for them to do so as they'd still be clobbered for it. It would be akin to deliberately making a mistake at work because you know there are controls in place that will discover and correct it, no rational person would have that mindset.
Same argument stands for referees not making decisions because they know VAR will correct them stands though, there's no evidence to support that view and it would be nonsensical for them to take that approach.You've misunderstood
I wasn't referring to any of that
Besides, the 'leaving it to VAR argument' only applies to Referees. I've never thought ARs would do so
I was pointing out that an AR's signal (or lack of) for a KMD is inconsequential
The Dorking thing. I inadvertently got into discussing reclassification. Given that a specific colleague is the subject of that conversation, I regret broaching that subject on a public forum as to do so was inappropriate
I don't agree, as you know. Hence, why dredge it back up again when my AR argument is a different consideration? We won't agree. And it would waste the life of my keyboard and the pixels on Member's phones and laptops to debate it againSame argument stands for referees not making decisions because they know VAR will correct them stands though, there's no evidence to support that view and it would be nonsensical for them to take that approach.