New trends in cheating

[one]

This reminds me of new scams. They workout new ways to gain an unfair advantage and authorities are always a step behind. By the time they catch up there is another new trend.

The one that is bugging me at the moment is an attacker with the ball getting into the PA then deliberately tangling their leg with a nearby defender (we call it initiating contact) and goes to the ground. It's given almost every time and sometimes VAR intervenes to reverse it.

 

[es1]

Don't think it's anything new, vardy used to do it all the time.

 

[RefereeX]

I think the newest one is players standing in an offside position from an attacking free kick, then just before it's taken, an attacker will push the defender backwards so that the offside line drops deeper and those players stood in an offside position are now onside!

Talking of new scams... don't think it's necessarily a new one, but my wife's phone got nicked in London on Sunday in a McDonalds. Woman came over acting as if homeless / hungry, phone was on the table, she waggles a bit of paper over the table with some nonsensical writing on as if to say she wants food and the paper masks her taking the phone. Didn't realise for 5 mins, by which time she was long gone - If anyone comes at you with paper in any food/drink establishment, be aware.

 

[RustyRef]

Don't think it's anything new, vardy used to do it all the time.

Goes way further back than that, Robert Pires absolutely perfected it.

 

[RustyRef]

I think the newest one is players standing in an offside position from an attacking free kick, then just before it's taken, an attacker will push the defender backwards so that the offside line drops deeper and those players stood in an offside position are now onside!

Talking of new scams... don't think it's necessarily a new one, but my wife's phone got nicked in London on Sunday in a McDonalds. Woman came over acting as if homeless / hungry, phone was on the table, she waggles a bit of paper over the table with some nonsensical writing on as if to say she wants food and the paper masks her taking the phone. Didn't realise for 5 mins, by which time she was long gone - If anyone comes at you with paper in any food/drink establishment, be aware.

My mate gone done with that in 2019. Woman pretending to be a tourist put a map on the outside pub table pretending to ask for directions and swiped his phone from under it. Never leave your phones on tables, especially in London.

Agree on the engineered onside thing at corners, seen it happen a few times.

 

[one]

Don't think it's anything new, vardy used to do it all the time.

Realise it is not a new act. It is a new trend though. Its being used by most attackers now. It used to be the odd ones a few years ago.

 

[bloovee]

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Does inventing a peace prize for a fascist count?

 

[Will_A]

Agree on the engineered onside thing at corners, seen it happen a few times.

Engineered onside at a corner?! I hope you haven't seen any offsides from a corner!

 

[socal lurker]

Engineered onside at a corner?! I hope you haven't seen any offsides from a corner!

Happens all the time. From the second touch . . . Which cues cries of “can’t be OS on a CK” from those with minimal knowledge . . .

 

[sunnycrofter]

Maybe this one isn't "new", but I haven't really seen it before, and I must admit it slightly flummoxed me;

At a corner kick, a goalkeeper forcefully shoves their own defender into an attacking player, in order to get the attacking player away from them. Is that a foul? Is it permitted? I feel it would be quite a hard sell to award a penalty after a GK pushes both his own player (and an attacker) to the floor?

 

[ChasObserverRefDeveloper]

Maybe this one isn't "new", but I haven't really seen it before, and I must admit it slightly flummoxed me;

At a corner kick, a goalkeeper forcefully shoves their own defender into an attacking player, in order to get the attacking player away from them. Is that a foul? Is it permitted? I feel it would be quite a hard sell to award a penalty after a GK pushes both his own player (and an attacker) to the floor?

An interesting one to "sell" but as the defender pushes the attacker over, a penalty would seem to be a reasonable outcome.
Donnaruma and Doku had this in October and it was sorted before play was restarted, if I remember correctly.

 

[socal lurker]

Of course, only. Foul if the CK I already in play . . .

 

[RustyRef]

Of course, only. Foul if the CK I already in play . . .

And the get out for referees here, that I'm sure they use in the EPL, is the foul happens at the moment they decide there was a foul, not when the whistle is blown.