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Assessment day emails are out too..

Congrats if you got one.

Commiserations if you just missed out. Good news is that a new season has just started and you've got the rest of this season to work hard. Every game is a cup final. đź‘Ť
 
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Allegedly there is a note on the promotion emails about keeping it confidential until 22nd Jan.
 
This does appear a bit daft. As it’s not going to affect assessment day results.
Does make it very obvious who was promoted and who was picked so there is probably an optics element to it
 
The Assessment Day sniffs of an opportunity to positively discriminate to me

I wouldn't fancy knocking on 50, being male, heterosexual (except on weekends), agnostic, white as the driven snow and big & ugly
 
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Does make it very obvious who was promoted and who was picked so there is probably an optics element to it
I know nothing about "assessment day". i was promoted many. many years ago.

What is this and how does it work? I thought just the top scoring people got promoted and that was that.
 
I know nothing about "assessment day". i was promoted many. many years ago.

What is this and how does it work? I thought just the top scoring people got promoted and that was that.
Top places promoted. The next bunch are invited for assessment. Argument being that it is so tight in the tables and some referees have performed consistently over a number of years and just missing out, sometimes by a fraction, so it's another opportunity to demonstrate ready for next level
 
Top places promoted. The next bunch are invited for assessment. Argument being that it is so tight in the tables and some referees have performed consistently over a number of years and just missing out, sometimes by a fraction, so it's another opportunity to demonstrate ready for next level
Why not just stick to the numbers and if you need 10 refs promote the top 10 scorers?

Who decides who is best on "assessment day" and how is this done?

As the other poster said is this all done fairly?
 
Why not just stick to the numbers and if you need 10 refs promote the top 10 scorers?

Who decides who is best on "assessment day" and how is this done?

As the other poster said is this all done fairly?
No idea. It's all new for this season. I believe there is fitness, laws of game exam, that sort of stuff.

If a referee finishes 11th, they have consistently performed well, but are denied a promotion they deserve, often by 0.01 of a mark.

I've seen so many great refs get held up by just being outside season on season.

It's fair in so much if you are one of the standout performer you go up. The rest get a chance to prove themselves, bearing in mind when we're down to 0.01 of a mark that there will always be variation in observers and the games observed on that might mean a referee who is performing better than someone above them doesn't go up.
 
No idea. It's all new for this season. I believe there is fitness, laws of game exam, that sort of stuff.

If a referee finishes 11th, they have consistently performed well, but are denied a promotion they deserve, often by 0.01 of a mark.

I've seen so many great refs get held up by just being outside season on season.

It's fair in so much if you are one of the standout performer you go up. The rest get a chance to prove themselves, bearing in mind when we're down to 0.01 of a mark that there will always be variation in observers and the games observed on that might mean a referee who is performing better than someone above them doesn't go up.
Or, the FA can use this to promote who they want regardless of where they lie in the tables.... 👀👀👀
 
There was a minimum criteria and that seems to have been set aside...

Hopefully anybody involved with FA Core will refuse themselves from the selection process.

Nothing wrong with the selection day in theory but the inevitable lack of transparency will lead to accusations of favouritism.
Been a few who were promoted mid season and then couldn't pass the fitness test for the level.
 
Hopefully anybody involved with FA Core will refuse themselves from the selection process.
Eh? Why on earth would they do that?
Nothing wrong with the selection day in theory but the inevitable lack of transparency will lead to accusations of favouritism.
Been a few who were promoted mid season and then couldn't pass the fitness test for the level.
Lead to believe fitness is 1st on the assessment day, fail the fitness, you're out of the running.
 
How are people chosen to go on the "assessment day"?

Is it the top few who didn't get promoted or is there a criteria you must meet to attend?

This all looks very unclear.
 
How are people chosen to go on the "assessment day"?

Is it the top few who didn't get promoted or is there a criteria you must meet to attend?

This all looks very unclear.
It's very clear it you operate at the level. Here is what was communicated at the start of the season...

New Criteria – “Playoff” Methodology for Level 2B, Level 3A and Level 4 referees
Following a successful trial at Step 2, the playoff methodology for determining both mid-season and
end of season promotions will be introduced for Level 3A and Level 4 referees for season 2023/24.
50% of those promoted will achieve automatic promotion through the merit table position whilst
the remaining 50% of promoted officials will be determined via an assessment day. Invitation to the
assessment day at the relevant level will be decided by those who did not achieve automatic
promotion via the merit table owing to club performance, and those next best placed on the merit
table.
This extends the opportunity for progression to a cohort of officials who marginally miss out on
automatic promotion.
Full details of its application can be found in the update.
 
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