PinnerPaul
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or a goalkeeper take 20 seconds to release the ball from hands.
The time taken for throw ins by winning teams in the EFL is becoming a right pain as well!
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The time taken for throw ins by winning teams in the EFL is becoming a right pain as well!
socal lurker
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I'm starting to think a turn over of the TI to the other team as an option for delay would be a good thing. Same thing for a goal kick. More of a deterrent in many cases than the caution.
And just to watch it never be called... Again
PinnerPaul
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Yes I agree. All sorts of 'tricks' at throw ins - give to team mate, ignore ball kicked to you by oppo, pretend you don't where its to be taken from, edge further and further down the line, knowing full well that ref is going to tell you to go back.
Refs at EFL level don't help, I've seen players booked in the 95th minute (of 95) on at least 2 occasions this season after much 'time wasting' before that - utterly pointless as a deterrent.
PinnerPaul
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I did see a throw in taken from the wrong place turned over at QPR last Saturday - very rare.And just to watch it never be called... Again
PinnerPaul
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Yes I agree, it actually irritates me more as a ref when the EFL refs tell GKs to release the ball from their hands (Usually after about 15 seconds!)
I know its pointless as they are NEVER going to award a fk. I would rather they just ignored it tbh and caution for the slow motion GKs!
socal lurker
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I guess to me the question is whether that would be more likely to be called than the current caution. I think it would be as Rs don't get handcuffed by having to give a caution. The turnover of a restart has some teeth without being excessively harsh or causing a caution to be given. My guess is it would be more likely to be used and because of that be a better deterrent. That's why I'm tempted by it. (Very different from the idiotic idea to caution GKs for leaving early, which anyone who thought about it realized before it was implemented would make it less likely that Rs would call it.)And just to watch it never be called... Again
socal lurker
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I sorta agree with you. But for myself, when I tell a GK to get going, I will give the IFK if he doesn't. (I've never had to.) But that one really needs to have someone at the top levels care and tell R's to call it in some way and communicate that out. Imagine if they told WC Rs to warn the keeper and 6 seconds and call the IFK at 10 if he still has the ball? GKs would adapt and every league in the world would have cover for starting to enforce it, which would make the game better. (And I also think changing the restart to a CK instead of the IFK would also help--still a sanction, but not the mess of an IFK in the PA that no ref wants to deal with.)
A caution for timewasting rarely affects the game, turning a goal kick into a corner most certainly would.
socal lurker
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That is OK with me--except to the extent it would make Rs less likely to enforce. I still think it would be easier than the caution, but could definitely be wrong.
ladbroke8745
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Issue would be, like today, it's down to interpretation as to how long.
You'll have refs blow for 10 seconds, others at 15 or more etc.... there's not consistency.
Every fan know that no EPL/EFL referee is booking a player until the 89th minute. So frustratingly predictable
bester
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Works in futsal. A goal kick (clearance) even gets turned into an IDFK 6-yards out, very rarely needs to be penalised as unsurprisingly players get on with it when they know they'll actually be punishe.
Wouldn't mind seeing a trial of visual counts. 10 seconds from when they're in position to play the ball.