keeper gets the ball but trailing leg gets attacker

[Kent Ref]

i may have been conned but this is what happened.

Ball is played into the PA and the keeper goes to ground to gather ball in his arms.

Keeper's trailing leg makes contact with attacker (running at speed) who then goes over and appeals for a penalty. I gave it.

Does the contact made count, considering the keeper now has the ball?

It was suggested the attacker made a meal of it but there was definite contact.

 

[Anubis]

the trailing leg has to go somewhere.
the attacker also knows this.
of course only you were there but does this on reflection fall into the anticipated contact criteria. Striker knows gk leg going to be out there so throws himself into it making an illusion of a foul.

purely from the description it smells of no pk

but you are the one who saw it

 

[Kent Ref]

the trailing leg has to go somewhere.
the attacker also knows this.
of course only you were there but does this on reflection fall into the anticipated contact criteria. Striker knows gk leg going to be out there so throws himself into it making an illusion of a foul.

purely from the description it smells of no pk

but you are the one who saw it

On reflection it smells like a no penalty but it happened so quickly i went by my gut reaction - which is normally good.

 

[Anubis]

On reflection it smells like a no penalty but it happened so quickly i went by my gut reaction - which is normally good.

did you blow instantly or give yourself just a sec to play in back in your head, and dare i say it, sense the feeling for a pk?

if you did, fine, pk it is, you saw it, replayed back in head what had happened, and processed that a pk was the call

if not, keeper is grounded with ball, there is no immediate rush to give anything, play it back in head, where was striker, where did he run in from, could he have made most of a potential outstretched leg, was gk aware of the onrushing player, just everything, does it feel, smell,and taste like a pk.

not sure at public park or kids if am going yc for the striker, maybe with cameras to justify iit i would but am thinking even the tone of your type is swaying yourself to the no pk outcome

that said, yes, nobody can be faulted for going with their instinct. it will see you good 90% of the time

 

[wazztie16]

I had a similar incident, to a degree, imo.

Keeper smothers ball on the floor in the PA as attacker has run on to tap it in. All good.

As keeper smothers ball, his legs go up in the air in a reckless manner (imo) and he takes the attacker out.

Penalty?

 

[Anubis]

I had a similar incident, to a degree, imo.

Keeper smothers ball on the floor in the PA as attacker has run on to tap it in. All good.

As keeper smothers ball, his legs go up in the air in a reckless manner (imo) and he takes the attacker out.

Penalty?

that sounds like a penalty

 

[one]

i may have been conned but this is what happened.

Ball is played into the PA and the keeper goes to ground to gather ball in his arms.

Keeper's trailing leg makes contact with attacker (running at speed) who then goes over and appeals for a penalty. I gave it.

Does the contact made count, considering the keeper now has the ball?

It was suggested the attacker made a meal of it but there was definite contact.

Did the keeper's trailing leg trip the attacker or did the attacker trip himself over the keeper's trailing leg?

If one is stationary and the other in motion then it's easy to decide. But in this case they are both in motion so it's for you to decide. A big clue is who gets to the ball first.

 

[wazztie16]

that sounds like a penalty

That's the decision I gave, at the time most of the defending players didn't agree, mind.

Sorry to muscle in on the thread, op, I'm not sure yours sounds like a pen, but I wasn't there so I can't obviously 100% say.

 

[one]

As keeper smothers ball, his legs go up in the air in a reckless manner (imo) and he takes the attacker out.

Penalty?

I am taking this as a rhetorical question. Anyone who wasn't there and says no penalty doesn't know law 12.

Edit: and I hope you cautioned the keeper as well.

 

[wazztie16]

I am taking this as a rhetorical question. Anyone who wasn't there and says no penalty doesn't know law 12.

Edit: and I hope you cautioned the keeper as well.

The reason I posted is because it's the first time something like it had happened in 4 seasons, as we know, unofficially keepers get a bit more 'protection' in the game. I did wonder if I'd been unduly harsh.

Yes I did caution the keeper, it wasn't dogso, it wasn't spa, just reckless play.

 

[socal lurker]

Hey wait, if a GK touches the ball it can't be a foul! Don't you know the rules at all?!?!?

Seriously, I think these are some of the really hard calls and where we earn the big bucks. GKs do often think they can do whatever they want. But GKs, no more than other players, don't get to take someone out just because the touched the ball.

Similar to what @one said above, I think of this much similar to how I think of sliding tackles where a tackler gets the ball: did the opponent fall over the tackler after the tackle, or did the sliding tackler go through the legs of the opponent? On many of these plays, one team is 100% sure it was clean and one team was 100% sure it was an obvious foul. These are plays you have to see to call, and plays where it is important to be close enough to be credible and to see what is happening and choose the best angle we can.