Gillingham diving suspension

[OnlyUseMeWhistle]

I assume this was televised in some way!

A gillingham player has received a two game ban for SIMULATION?



Not sure if he was on a yellow but if not this would have been “just” a yellow if a sanction were given on the pitch. I don’t hate it - I’m just surprised.

 

[RefereeX]

@Kent Ref thoughts?

 

[Tealeaf]

This incident materially changed the outcome of the game. It was deep into stoppage time, 7 or 8 minutes in and effectively the final kick too.
Suspect this is one of those rare cases where it genuinely changed the result, turning a defeat into a draw.

Although I suspect that the fact he’s effectively been charged with attempting to deceive the committee by denying it, is why he’s been hammered.

 

[JamesL]

This has been around for a while. Players who successfully deceive a match official are charged as misconduct.
Players who unsuccessfully deceive the referee are dealt with at the time via a caution.

 

[RefereeX]

This has been around for a while. Players who successfully deceive a match official are charged as misconduct.
Players who unsuccessfully deceive the referee are dealt with at the time via a caution.

Just playing devil's advocate... (as I do believe this is a good thing) but what if a player jumps over a tackle and genuinely falls over (rare, but happens) and the referee awards a penalty? Are we expecting that player to inform the referee there and then that it isn't a foul? As presumably if they don't, they could be charged, at which point they would surely deny the charge (with the defence being that it was a genuine fall, not simulation), but most likely end up being penalised more harshly through no fault of their own?

 

[bester]

@RefereeX There's a panel who need to decide there was deception involved. Accidentally deceiving a match official in that manner would be unlikely to bring a charge (plus you need to considerhow unlikely the charge is in normal circumstances..)

It's a standard two game ban, don't think admitting it is going to get much mitigation.

 

[Kent Ref]

Just seen this. I cannot stand cheating and this cost the other club two points. GFC also appealed the decision - don't know why - it's quite blatant.

The player cheated and now gets his punishment. I hope the club fines him two weeks wages.

The problem is the game is so dishonest now it's just standard behaviour.

My questions is this:

Every time a player deceives a ref for a penalty or gets a player sent off in the Premiership why are no bans forthcoming?

There must be at least one incident EVERY week but nothing is dealt with.

 

[JamesL]

Just seen this. I cannot stand cheating and this cost the other club two points. GFC also appealed the decision - don't know why - it's quite blatant.

The player cheated and now gets his punishment. I hope the club fines him two weeks wages.

The problem is the game is so dishonest now it's just standard behaviour.

My questions is this:

Every time a player deceives a ref for a penalty or gets a player sent off in the Premiership why are no bans forthcoming?

There must be at least one incident EVERY week but nothing is dealt with.

I think you are massively overstating this.
In the Premier League blatant acts of simulation happen significantly less and when successful it's then identified through VAR and corrected so it's dealt with on they day and no misconduct.

 

[es1]

There are blatant acts of simulation in every game, they just don't involve reds or penalties

 

[Kent Ref]

I think you are massively overstating this.
In the Premier League blatant acts of simulation happen significantly less and when successful it's then identified through VAR and corrected so it's dealt with on they day and no misconduct.

I think penalties are being given when the attacking player is instigating contact. These are not being over-ruled by VAR.

 

[RustyRef]

I think you are massively overstating this.
In the Premier League blatant acts of simulation happen significantly less and when successful it's then identified through VAR and corrected so it's dealt with on they day and no misconduct.

Exactly, at Championship and below the referee gets one look at it and has to make a decision. Same in the EPL, but with the massive difference that if they give a penalty and it was simulation VAR can get involved.

I personally think simulation is the hardest thing for a referee to deal with at any level. You get one chance to look at it, and if you penalise you are effectively accusing a footballer of cheating.

 

[NoFoulsAllowed]

 

[es1]

2 match ban for diving

3 more for the sfp

 

[Iain]

just looked it up. great decision to ban home 2 games . he could have least gone over to the keeper. no consideration or concern.

 

[OnlyUseMeWhistle]

Exactly, at Championship and below the referee gets one look at it and has to make a decision. Same in the EPL, but with the massive difference that if they give a penalty and it was simulation VAR can get involved.

I personally think simulation is the hardest thing for a referee to deal with at any level. You get one chance to look at it, and if you penalise you are effectively accusing a footballer of cheating.

Always easier to just wave away than actually book someone - I find spotting the intent is the hardest part. No law against being soft is usually my defence when someone asks if it was a dive!