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First two games, 4 penalties

HertsFinest

HertsFinest

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I've had 4 penalties over my first two games of the season. Bit of a headache start!

No need for cards as yet. Keeping them nice and shiny for when needed :)

Last game 3 penalties to same team, who won the game 8-0. Almost cautioned for dissent when one player in the 88th minute (7 nil at this point) started bemoaning the first penalty and how it was all my fault for the next 6 goals!
 
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They are going to be frustrated. That is a hammering and with 2 minutes left to play i think you were right to cut the player a little slack if he didn't push his luck too far.

As for what he said about costing them the game, who cares. Not worthy of your time giving it a second thought.

I remember being accused of making a team lose. It was when I refereed them again 3 weeks later that it was mentioned. In the second game, I sent off their keeper for OFFINABUS in the 90th minute in a game they lost by 2 goals. He shouted as he went off " you cost us this game! Just like the last game down (team name removed!)!"

They lost that game 14-0, nobody sent off, 1 penalty in the 88th minute. :D you gotta laugh!
 
Yeah im facing potentially a scenario as I have the same team twice in the next week. Don't like this as it always potentially causes the old "oh that bloody ref again"!
 
Identify the mouthiest one and get him in the book as quick as you can.......once the rest see the lemons coming out they will soon quiet down.
 
Supermonkey said:
Or you could wait for the game to come and without preconceived ideas, referee it like you would any other game, taking action as and when necessary :)
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No fun in that.

Once you've refereed teams a few times you can almost turn up with the names already in your book.......quite good sport seeing how quickly you can actually get the team mouthpiece in the book.......and whether they can last the game.

Did it on Sunday.....identified the loudest moaner on the team, gave him one warning, then bang....lemon up the nose. Not a peep out of him for the remaining 70 mins!
 
That's why I like my Youth league, very rare to see a team multiple times in a season!
 
Supermonkey said:
Or you could wait for the game to come and without preconceived ideas, referee it like you would any other game, taking action as and when necessary :)
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This is my attitude every game. Will take action same as normal just not looking forward to the inevitable penalty or cherry in the first game! Always the way!


Mike said:
That's why I like my Youth league, very rare to see a team multiple times in a season!
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That the MHRML mike? They have an enormous set up!
 
Padfoot said:
No fun in that.

Once you've refereed teams a few times you can almost turn up with the names already in your book.......quite good sport seeing how quickly you can actually get the team mouthpiece in the book.......and whether they can last the game.

Did it on Sunday.....identified the loudest moaner on the team, gave him one warning, then bang....lemon up the nose. Not a peep out of him for the remaining 70 mins!
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What if that player happened to notice it was you and decided to keep his mouth shut for 90 mins?
You're going into the game intent on 'sticking a lemon up his nose' meaning that any 50/50 challenge will result in him getting cautioned, despite the fact that he may have actually made a clean tackle!

Please don't be encouraging others to go into games with a plan of who to caution
 
DanCohen17 said:
What if that player happened to notice it was you and decided to keep his mouth shut for 90 mins?
You're going into the game intent on 'sticking a lemon up his nose' meaning that any 50/50 challenge will result in him getting cautioned, despite the fact that he may have actually made a clean tackle!....
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You misunderstand......

I'm not advocating booking previously mouthy players at the first iffy challenge.....what I'm saying is identify who is the team mouthpiece for that game, and get them in the book early on.
Give them one chance to shut up then get them in the book if they don't listen.

If a player remembers me and keeps schtum for the game.....then it's job done as far as I am concerned. I'm looking to stop the constant moaners and confidence chippers, not just rack up cards. Easiest way to do that is to set your stall out early....and stick to it.
 
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Herts - Don't worry too much about the next time you have them, go out and referee your normal game. If there's a yellow card to be given, give it. Likewise with red. If there's no need for any cards, be pleased with that too and know you've done your job to the very best of our ability!
 
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I have said all along it's about getting the mouthpiece in the book.....you introduced the incorrect assumption that it meant using 50/50 challenges to achieve that....your words not mine.

I referee for enjoyment these days, no pressure, no regrets. I've achieved pretty everything I wanted to achieve from refereeing.....

I'll concede that I am indeed a little cynical of refereeing today.....but don't mistake that for bitterness.....it's cynicism borne out of experience not just in refereeing but in life.
 
Padfoot said:
I've achieved pretty everything I wanted to achieve from refereeing and harbour no ill feelings or bitterness towards the game.
Can you put your hand on your heart and say the same?
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No, I've not achieved everything I want to in refereeing, far from it. At my age, I fully intend on going back into refereeing (having taken a sabbatical this season).
However, I fully accept that the reason I haven't achieved everything is down to me, myself & I! I, no-one else, messed up last season. I gave offside from a GK (under assessment) in, arguably, the biggest game I had at L4, no-one else raised my flag for me. Once again, it was ME that made errors during my season(s) at 4, no-one else!

Yes, you are very cynical. We have a number of young (and new) referees on this site. If you continue in your cynical (and, despite what you say, often bitter) ways, I have no doubt that there will be officials who read your comments and think twice about refereeing!

You do actually make some good points on occasion (as I have indeed pointed out), but please stop the constant negativity, it's not necessary.
 
FWIW, in my experience it is always best to approach a game without any plans as to what action you might take. That said, we are all human and of course we remember the people who've made our lives difficult in the past. Certainly I've arrived at grounds where I've had a difficult game previously and been met with comments about my integrity (or 'bottle', or eyesight, etc) which, of course, can affect confidence. It's one of the more challenging aspects of football, especially at the lower-level when you are on your own.

For me, it's about professionalism. I won't get involved in debates about my decision-making as a referee and, whilst I'll happily stay and chat after a game I try my best not to get drawn into discussions about what I should and shouldn't have done (ie. sometimes you are told - my best answer is that I have no problem with them having an opinion, it's just that mine is different (even where I know I might have got it wrong). Ultimately, as long as I know where I've got things right (or wrong) and learn from that then that will ensure my confidence stays high and I'll approach each game positively and consistently. I know from talking to colleagues that they have different approaches - as we've seen on this thread - and ultimately it's each to their own I guess. What I do think is essential is that you don't say or do anything that may affect confidence/match control for the next game - whether that's at the same ground or otherwise.
 
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