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James P said:
Ermmmm, even as a city fan I thought that was handball.
Atwell in the middle and Kavanagh on VAR again...
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Another VAR decision that makes no sense. Clearly sticks arm out to control the ball. Clear penalty.

You can have 100 armpit offside decisions, but only takes one like this to negate all of them.

Either provide the audio like rugby, which would hopefully eradicate these inexplicable decisions or scrap VAR.
 
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2nd game this week I've turned off following dodgy VAR (Dortmund & Rangers). Hello Golf!!
Its a long old wait until the 2022 NFL season.
Literally a still screen from Sky Main Event showing the handball and somehow they've missed it between onfield and VAR officials.
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Not understanding that decision at all. It was a big massive call though, which would have impacted both the bottom and top of the table.
 
Inconsistencies yet again....

Benefit of doubt, someone was offside before the handball? The initial shot that made it loop up? But you'd have thought they'd explain that?
 
VAR has decided (twice in as many weeks) that if any part of the ball touches the sleeve, they ain't gonna overturn it as HB
(Villa being the other one) (or was it West Ham?)
That effectively means VAR will only call HB for elbow to hand
The fundamental problem is, if you want VAR forensics, you need forensic rules. Until then, this nonsense will never go away

Common sense would say, 'if any part of the ball touches any part of the arm below the sleeve, then HB is a potential offence'
But, forensics can't rely upon common sense. Two books are needed. One which could be 500+ pages (golf is 1100 pages)
 
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Big Cat said:
VAR has decided (twice in as many weeks) that if any part of the ball touches the sleeve, they ain't gonna overturn it as HB
(Villa being the other one) (or was it West Ham?)
That effectively means VAR will only call HB for elbow to hand
The fundamental problem is, if you want VAR forensics, you need forensic rules. Until then, this nonsense will never go away

Common sense would say, 'if any part of the ball touches any part of the arm below the sleeve, then HB is a potential offence'
But, forensics can't rely upon common sense. Two books are needed. One which could be 500+ pages (golf is 1100 pages)
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VAR response:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1497657513252057090
 
That’s exactly what I was wondering. The new screwball definition of where the arm starts makes it much harder to make a conclusive determination of whether the ball touched below the magic line. To the extent it isn’t a HB, it is nuts and shows the definition is daffy. IMO, if that isn’t a HB, the rule is completely broken.
 
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