Delaying the restart of play

[DazzRef]

Bit of an odd one but had a game last weekend and its been on my mind for a few days(not bothering me tho). A few minutes before half time Reds v Blues U17s Boys. The Reds get a throw. Now a player goes over picks up the ball from the Reds and is about to take it but then stops. He waits about 20 seconds where I tell him you need to throw the ball twice. He clearly hears me and says 'our usual thrower is tying his lace ref'(The usual thrower did have a killer of a long throw and it was an attacking throw I must add). Again I remind him to throw the ball. Other player runs over takes the ball off him(the one who was tying his lace) and is about to take the throw when I blow and caution the one who ran over and took the ball.

Now what I am asking is have I cautioned the wrong player. Should I have cautioned the player I told to throw the ball or the one who took it off him who was tying his lace(Both players heard me order them to hurry up as they were beside each other and not far from me).

When explaining it to the two players at half time who both came over to ask I simply said 'you were told to throw the ball twice and I informed you of that' his reply was 'so surely it should have been me that was booked and not ma pal that took the ball off me'. They both accepted it in the end but i am more just wondering???

 

[haywain]

You booked the wrong player - and 20 seconds was way too long, imo....mind you, if you're in the habit of allowing players time to do laces, which I am not, then perhaps 20 seconds didn't seem so long to you

 

[SM]

I'm with haywain, you booked the wrong player.

 

[Charlie Jones]

also agree with Haywain, unless the guy tying his shoe lace told his team mate to wait? if thats the case then book both

 

[SM]

No, just the one can be booked for it and that is the man with the ball.

Locally I would just stop the watch and let him tie his lace then have the throw - but that is what is expected around my way.

 

[Charlie Jones]

to be honest, thats how id have done it too - i dont see how it effects the game - the ball is out of play anyway

 

[lincs22]

You booked the wrong player - and 20 seconds was way too long, imo....mind you, if you're in the habit of allowing players time to do laces, which I am not, then perhaps 20 seconds didn't seem so long to you

I'm with haywain, you booked the wrong player.

Sorry, don't agree. The caution was for the delay of a re-start - so you have done either of them. However, once the ball had been passed over to the second player - cautioning the first player woudl be an "impossible sell". All he had to say would "I am no longer delaying the restart" - meaning that you would be wrong in law.
The player tieing his laces is the player actually delaying the game as he was not ready & shoudl have told his collegue to take the throw - so you were correct.

 

[SM]

Respectfully, there appears to be a massive logic error there lincs22 : the man with the ball could take the throw - there is nothing stopping him from taking it as he has the ball and is player causing the delay. You have also shouted at him twice (as OP). However, the man tying his lace is busy with that and in no position to take the throw.

I don't think you can credibly get away with cautioning a player for not shouting to someone else to take the throw? You have already shouted and the player with the ball has ignored you twice.

 

[ref craig]

Maybe you should used bit common sence and when ever player is tying there lace you add the time on and then you let the player who wants to take the throw take it

 

[DaveMac]

Agree with mostly everyone that should have been the guy not throwing the ball. Unless you've acknowledged the lace tying and are letting it happen then its the guy holding the ball and not throwing it I would have carded. But can see why you did what you did.

Personally if in a youth game a player makes me aware he is doing his laces and I'm happy to delay play then I will. But if a team wants to take their throw quick, freekick quick etc I wont let the defending team try and stop that with the defending teams striker suddenly needing to tie his laces.

 

[DazzRef]

Cheers for all the replies guys. Like i said it wasn't really bothering me was just wondering your thoughts. It wasn't till half time that I realised that I may have cautioned the wrong player but everyone accepted it and the card meant nothing come the end of the game(i.e second yellow). I rarely let time stop when tying laces unless its the keeper or the kicker of a free kick or really young kids.

 

[haywain]

the card meant nothing come the end of the game(i.e second yellow).

Presumably it still meant a fine for someone, club or player

I'm old enough to remember what a tenner could buy you back in the day

Pity that I can't remember what.....