Consecutive foul throws - restart?

[The Ginger Ref]

I've checked the LOTG but couldn't find a definitive answer to this situation nor did the refchat search function, need some clarification as I swear either I, or the referee I watched today, has 'made up a law'.

If Blue team is penalised for a foul throw, and the Red team then commits a foul throw immediately after, my understanding is:

• Blue is awarded a free kick?
  
  
• In this case, would it be a direct or indirect free kick?

 

[Josh the referee]

I've always been under the impression it would keep turning over until a legal throw is taken (or one you can at least claim is somewhat legal).

 

[The Ginger Ref]

I've always been under the impression it would keep turning over until a legal throw is taken (or one you can at least claim is somewhat legal).

Which is what happened in the game I was watching

But I could see this approach becoming a bit of a farce

(And I recall when I was younger that a consecutive foul throw would be a free kick - not sure if this was a league rule or the LOTG have changed)

 

[FirsFox40]

But I could see this approach becoming a bit of a farce

Until the referee chooses to “miss” the third (etc) foul throw.

No grounds to award a FK in these circumstances.

 

[Gabriel]

It's definitely just continuing foul throws. Although after 3 or 4 I'd be trying to find literally any reason to say it's a good/legal throw because I don't think anyone wants this.

 

[socal lurker]

Which is what happened in the game I was watching

But I could see this approach becoming a bit of a farce

(And I recall when I was younger that a consecutive foul throw would be a free kick - not sure if this was a league rule or the LOTG have changed)

That has absolutely never been in the LOTG.

(I personally think way too much time is spent at young ages calling bad throws. It’s a simple way to get the game restarted. No reason to be picky on violations that don’t create an advantage. There is nothing more boring—for parents or players—than the series of retaken throws for minor violations that don’t make a difference. A proper throw becomes much easier with physical development.)

 

[The Ginger Ref]

That has absolutely never been in the LOTG.

(I personally think way too much time is spent at young ages calling bad throws. It’s a simple way to get the game restarted. No reason to be picky on violations that don’t create an advantage. There is nothing more boring—for parents or players—than the series of retaken throws for minor violations that don’t make a difference. A proper throw becomes much easier with physical development.)

Maybe I imagined it!

Luckily I wasn't the one in the middle

 

[JamesL]

Never heard of this one before. But ditto what @socal lurker said

 

[ChasObserverRefDeveloper]

That has absolutely never been in the LOTG.

(I personally think way too much time is spent at young ages calling bad throws. It’s a simple way to get the game restarted. No reason to be picky on violations that don’t create an advantage. There is nothing more boring—for parents or players—than the series of retaken throws for minor violations that don’t make a difference. A proper throw becomes much easier with physical development.)

In England we now have no throw-in's at the youngest three age groups, which is where multiple retakes were often required by referees who weren't aware of the mini soccer guidelines on the point.

 

[The Ginger Ref]

Be interesting to see how the removal of throw ins, and headers for that matter, will impact player development.

Going to be a big shock to the system when one year they are doing dribble ins and no headers, then suddenly the next year it's all in.

 

[ChasObserverRefDeveloper]

Be interesting to see how the removal of throw ins, and headers for that matter, will impact player development.

Going to be a big shock to the system when one year they are doing dribble ins and no headers, then suddenly the next year it's all in.

Easier to learn throws and headers at 11 than at 7, methinks

 

[socal lurker]

In England we now have no throw-in's at the youngest three age groups, which is where multiple retakes were often required by referees who weren't aware of the mini soccer guidelines on the point.

Many leagues in the US do that at U7 or. But even U10 where we have TIs they can be hard for the coordination level.

Be interesting to see how the removal of throw ins, and headers for that matter, will impact player development.

In the US, we were a few years ahead of the UK in taking heading out of the younger game. I can’t speak to the highly competitive level, but at the rec level, I think it has been an overall positive in player development. Players seem to me much better at balls in the air using their body, as that gets practiced more when they can’t practice heading. (And most kids who were heading at the younger levels where we ban heading weren’t really heading the ball anyway—they were letting the ball hit their head.)