Club assistant referee - Responsibilities.

[SLI39]

@SLI39 you cant give them offinabus/fouls and misconduct. its a big can of worms. you cant send someone off for something u havent seen.

An example, a player commits VC against an opponent. you dont see it. 2 scenarios 1 with NAR and 1 with CAR

1. with NAR, he'll call you over, tell u what he has seen then YOU decide the sanction i.e. red card. Both you and your NAR submit a report via wholegame system and it is dealt with.

2 with CAR. all the above is thesame except how would a club CAR submit a report, and write in the correct way. without it how would your report stand up against an appeal?

For me as i said when i opened this thread its in and out and the direction only, I'd be very worried giving anything else given some of the misunderstandings I've heard re new laws on tv and from people i know.

I do agree that the referee's decision takes precedence and is always final.
But the refusal to accept the CAR's word gives the impression they are second-class citizens where football is concerned.
I've had two incidents over seven years of refereeing where I felt I had to ignore claims of abuse by CARs because I didn't hear the words spoken. It's hard for misconduct to be taken seriously in a report if it's hearsay.

Also, yes, current reporting structures make it difficult for referees to incorporate the testament of CARs. However, I had been led to believe there was a way for parents to submit complementary reports.

 

[A Freethinker]

Ball in/out full stop, most of them wouldn't understand the offside law!

 

[TheRef]

Must be an English thing this CAR business. Where I am, we simply have someone from each team stand at the half way line and flag for ball in and out of play. No running about, no offsides, no direction for throw. Keeps it nice and simple, no one is expecting anything else and all other decisions are mine alone and you don't have a lino waving a flag about for fouls and things that you are not giving.

 

[Mintyref]

Must be an English thing this CAR business. Where I am, we simply have someone from each team stand at the half way line and flag for ball in and out of play. No running about, no offsides, no direction for throw. Keeps it nice and simple, no one is expecting anything else and all other decisions are mine alone and you don't have a lino waving a flag about for fouls and things that you are not giving.

That's just the way we do it too here in the county of East Yorkshire, last time I checked we hadn't achieved a eebahgumexit and are still part of England!

 

[Twinblade]

Simply ball in and out of play for me. I tell them that they can flag for offside, but if it is as a reaction to their team mates shouting offside or they aren't up with play then I won't pay attention (always acknowledge their flag but clear shout of onside). In terms of goals, I tell them not to get involved, but if they wave for a goal against their own team I will take it. No-one ever has in OA football yet but in the youth league I've had a few, but that's because they try to promote respect/fair play to all over results.

 

[lincs22]

Must be an English thing this CAR business. Where I am, we simply have someone from each team stand at the half way line and flag for ball in and out of play. No running about, no offsides, no direction for throw. Keeps it nice and simple, no one is expecting anything else and all other decisions are mine alone and you don't have a lino waving a flag about for fouls and things that you are not giving.

That's just the way we do it too here in the county of East Yorkshire, last time I checked we hadn't achieved a eebahgumexit and are still part of England!

Same in North Yorks, as well.

Nice to be in line with our foreign members (those from _ULL)

 

[Nathan Fuller]

I have been using CARs since I started officiating and I tell them ball in and out of play and offsides and leave free kicks to me. However, I do tell them only to flag if the player in question plays the ball, furthermore, I also remind them I may overrule them but normally it would be because I have missed the flag and the ball has been cleared to safety or the ball has gone out of play or the keeper has cleared to safety. Using this approach is a good way to build trust with your CARs after all offsides are difficult and almost impossible to call from the middle.

 

[Ciley Myrus]

The ONLY instruction you should be giving a CAR is, "if you could help me by raising the flag on the occasions the whole ball crosses over the touchline, then that would be appreciated, thanks so much"

its that simple.

 

[Tino Best]

In Suffolk it is standard practise for CARs to do offsides and to help looking out for foul throws. A clear brief before the game to clarify what you want from them means no confusion. Always state I give all fouls and missconduct. You do get an idea of who is trying hard not to make misstake and those who are not quite as honest as they should be.

 

[zarathustra]

Same in kent but without foul throws

 

[UKColt]

On my Sunday league in London, it's ball in and out of play and offsides as standard. I've found giving a clear brief and being vocal during the game goes a long way to helping you manage the offsides, but it's still the most difficult bit of grassroots refereeing for me.

Though to be honest, I much prefer my Saturday league where they don't bother with CARs. You either get appointed NARs in the senior divisions, or you make all the calls yourself.

 

[RefJef]

I do a number of youth (U16 & U15) games and yeh CARs on these are typically very good - normally a Dad who does it week in, week out, knows what they are doing, enjoys doing it, and does their best to do it well.

The adult league I do, the standard of CaR is much more variable - typically a sub who'se a little aggrieved that he's not on the pitch, playing.

A different viewpoint - last week I played for my Veterans team. We only scraped 11 players together so we couldn't provide a car, so no Lino on our defensive line.

Following an opposition attack, the opposition attacker was yards offside, wheezing his way back up the pitch when the ball was lumped forward to him. He collects, he shoots, he scores. Yards offside. But ref didn't give it, player didn't own up to being offside (although he did admit it was offside later in the game) Better to have car's than not, imho.