Here's one for you, Stockport away at Bromley from the corner the goal post were moved. A Bromley player cleared the ball what would the decision been if a county player got the ball and say it went between the post and the markings where the post was what would the outcome be anyone know.
Bromley v Stockport co (you tube to see clip 15mins)
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Dropped Ball
From where ?
From where the ball is when the Ref stops play, dropped to the team that last touched the ball
Probably from where it was last touched is normal with dropped balls.
So could be to opposition GK if last touched by attacker in PA
So in the clip the cross bar, imo, has become 'displaced' so play should have been stopped and a dropped ball awarded.
That dropped ball would have been to the defending GK on the basis that the ball was last touched and was in the penalty area when play should have been stopped.
That dropped ball would have been to the defending GK on the basis that the ball was last touched and was in the penalty area when play should have been stopped.
@JamesL is correct. It is where the ball was last touched unless the ball was in the penalty area when play was stopped, in which case it goes to the GK no matter where the last touch was.
In this case, best decision would have been to stop as soon as the goal has clearly moved and drop ball to the Keeper as the ball is still in that part of the pitch and very much in danger of the moved goal becoming an issue.
An interesting supplementary question is what you do if the first thing that happens after the goal moves is a promising attack in the other direction. I can't think of anything in Law that says we need to stop the game immediately if it's not causing a practical issue. If the corner flag came out, we would just replace at the next stoppage in play.
You stop play. The law says if the crossbar becomes displaced play is stopped. No ifs buts or maybes.
Interesting. I don't read that as the intention of Law 1, which I take as being about a dangerous or inadequate crossbar.
I suspect that Law was written when all goalposts were inserted in holes in the ground, rather than the array of wheeled contraptions we get today. It could probably do with being updated.
That being said, what I am doing in practice is stopping the game anyway.
"If the crossbar becomes displaced or broken, play is stopped until it has been
repaired or replaced in position."
Thats what it says. Nothing about being dangerous or inadequate. Simply, is it in the right place. Stop play until it is back where it needs to be.
Of course the laws of physics dictate you are correct - if the post is displaced, the crossbar by definition is displaced as well, unless it's a mini-soccer plastic thing, when it's entirely possible the post can be displaced independently, or something of poor construction where the posts can be splayed.
My point is just that there is a reason the law is written the way it is to refer only to the crossbar and I'm pretty sure it's not because someone went through the physics of it
My point is just that there is a reason the law is written the way it is to refer only to the crossbar and I'm pretty sure it's not because someone went through the physics of it
The law makes reference to portable goals and they should be firmly secured, which these obviously weren't. (pre match inspection anyone?) so I don't believe there is an oversight.
The law requires 2 posts and crossbar to be in their proper position throughout play. So any variation of the post or crossbar not being so (although the laws only state crossbar, I think that's more to do with if the post is displaced then the crossbar likely is going to be as well by virtue of their structure) then play should be stopped.
There is no possible play on scenario, you allow a promising attack for the opposition and that gets turned over you have to stop it then, that seems unfair to me that one team for a part of the match have an opportunity to score a goal while the other doesn't and not due to any infringement of their opposition.
If the law wanted to it could provide provision for when to play on if the goals become damaged such as extra person on field of play play can Continue if no interference, but they don't, it simply says stopped.
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Pretty sure that same language has been there forever and pretty sure that it was a safety concern from day one--a crossbar falling on someone's head. Since this happens basically never in games that FIFA pays attention to (can anyone think of any other event like this? I've never heard of one), IFAB is hardly going to pay attention to this when amending the Laws when it can just revise handball again.
That really shouldn't be happening at a step 1 level. But once it does you really have to stop the play.
Goal posts on 3G pitches can be a challenge. I did a game a few years ago where we checked the nets before the game, then the ARs checked before kick off and all was good. Early in the game one team attacked down the left wing and as I followed them into the penalty area I immediately realised that the far post was nowhere near the goal line. The attacker shot across the keeper and it went in close to the far post and defenders and keeper immediately complained.
Technically I should have stopped play as soon as I realised there was a problem but that would have been horrendous. Rather I was able to demonstrate to the defenders that had the far post been on the goal line it would have been even more of a goal as the ball would have hit the side netting further into the goal. This was grass roots so got away with it, no idea what I would have done at semi-pro or pro level, and still to this day don't know how the goals got moved as they did.
Goal posts on 3G pitches can be a challenge. I did a game a few years ago where we checked the nets before the game, then the ARs checked before kick off and all was good. Early in the game one team attacked down the left wing and as I followed them into the penalty area I immediately realised that the far post was nowhere near the goal line. The attacker shot across the keeper and it went in close to the far post and defenders and keeper immediately complained.
Technically I should have stopped play as soon as I realised there was a problem but that would have been horrendous. Rather I was able to demonstrate to the defenders that had the far post been on the goal line it would have been even more of a goal as the ball would have hit the side netting further into the goal. This was grass roots so got away with it, no idea what I would have done at semi-pro or pro level, and still to this day don't know how the goals got moved as they did.
In which case either he has super powers or they aren't weighted down correctly. And mud in his boots from a 3G pitch would be worrying ...Probably the keeper kicking the mud out of his boots on the post...
