Another ‘I’m a ref’ conversation

[QuaverRef]

Yesterday a ball was played over the top and bounced between the attacker and goalkeeper and as the keeper jumped, the attacker pushed the ball over his head with his hand and tapped it into an open net. Free kick given, yellow card for deliberate HB. Easy.

However, after the game one of the players (citing that he’s a ref as well), told me that should have been a red as it’s the ‘attackers equivalent of DOGSO’ something I’m yet to see in the LOTG. My questions are a) is he correct? And b) is there a scenario other than DOGSO where deliberate handball is a straight red?

 

[CapnBloodbeard]

a+b) No
Law 12 states all the red card offences.

NFI why players lie about being a ref...it's weird (at least, I'm hoping he lied and he's not just a disturbingly incompetent ref)

 

[JamesL]

No. And no.

Worries me that there are "refs" spouting this nonsense.

Also be careful with HB cautions. There are only 2 scenarios that mandate a caution for handball:

• handles the ball to interfere with or stop a promising attack
• handles the ball in an attempt to score a goal (whether or not the attempt is
successful) or in an unsuccessful attempt to prevent a goal

You were correct to caution but the way you worded suggests that you cautioned as it was deliberate not because they committed 1 of the two offences.

 

[Kes]

a+b) No
Law 12 states all the red card offences.

NFI why players lie about being a ref...it's weird (at least, I'm hoping he lied and he's not just a disturbingly incompetent ref)

How can a player be "DOGSO'd" for denying himself a goal opportunity?

What a complete spoon this "ref" is.

 

[QuaverRef]

No. And no.

Worries me that there are "refs" spouting this nonsense.

Also be careful with HB cautions. There are only 2 scenarios that mandate a caution for handball:

• handles the ball to interfere with or stop a promising attack
• handles the ball in an attempt to score a goal (whether or not the attempt is
successful) or in an unsuccessful attempt to prevent a goal

You were correct to caution but the way you worded suggests that you cautioned as it was deliberate not because they committed 1 of the two offences.

Good to know I was right in my own mind. I wish I’d asked him which rule he was citing to be honest, would have made for an interesting response!

 

[Peter Grove]

There have been a number of occasions when as a player, coach or spectator, I've disagreed with something a referee has said or done but not once did I ever seriously consider using the "I'm a referee" line. (OK, it did cross my mind once or twice but I always immediately thought better of it). It's a cheap shot at best and doesn't really go along with what I think a referee's code of conduct should be.

We all know that the referee's decision is final and for me, challenging a fellow referee's decision-making amounts to a professional discourtesy. The only time I've ever offered an opinion was when a young referee in a small-sided youth tournament I was also refereeing in (and who knew me) had forgotten the rules for a penalty shoot-out and asked me what they were. Otherwise I just keep my trap shut. I would always suspect that anyone who uses the "I'm a referee" claim, probably isn't.