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  1. Tim Punter

    ARS vs CIT

    Why was Darren England intervening last week with a freeze frame shown to Hooper when he arrived at VAR. I don’t see the difference, sorry. You freeze frame that impact as Michael Oliver walks up to the screen then it’s a red card
  2. Tim Punter

    TOT v LIV

    https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/liverpool-tottenham-replay-jurgen-klopp-var-b2424045.html According to UEFA rules A replay would be possible over incorrect application of laws, rather than an outright mistake: since the VAR actually identified that Diaz was onside, the correct...
  3. Tim Punter

    TOT v LIV

    Too busy calling each other mate, think I counted four.
  4. Tim Punter

    TOT v LIV

    Apparently they have been getting help from rugby with VAR, but that sound like it has been completely ignored, as we don’t want to learn from other sports as we are experts in what we are doing, and we don’t need other people meddling in our process. At least this will draw a line under this...
  5. Tim Punter

    TOT v LIV

    😹
  6. Tim Punter

    TOT v LIV

    Does Simon Hooper actually say anything?
  7. Tim Punter

    TOT v LIV

    Gets to the heart of it, imo
  8. Tim Punter

    TOT v LIV

    What an utter shambles.
  9. Tim Punter

    TOT v LIV

    I have never made the UAE ‘corruption’ link. only you have. An independent review, is somebody, from a sport like rugby to have a look, not PGMOL. The state argument is for another forum not a referee one, but Howard Webb, I think needs to consider, as have a lot of respected journalists such as...
  10. Tim Punter

    TOT v LIV

    Liverpool now have the audio to review, and fully expect their next statement will be along the lines of ‘We are happy that a genuine mistake was made, but PGMOl must now implement measures to ensure this isnt repeated, for the integrity of the game….this includes officials being allowed to...
  11. Tim Punter

    TOT v LIV

    Would that be Sheik Mansour the deputy prime minister and Vice president of the UAE and a member of the ruling family of Abu Dhabi? I am not suggesting for one moment that I know referees are coming back with suitcases full of cash, but the link is being questioned by serious football...
  12. Tim Punter

    TOT v LIV

    But UAE is a 7hr flight, but the obvious problems with UAE owning Manchester City, which Howard Webb should be aware of. Mark Clattenburg I think wrote this week that he did a Sunday game after flying back from Russia on a Thursday night game and he couldn't remember anything about the game...
  13. Tim Punter

    TOT v LIV

    https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12975245/luis-diaz-var-error-liverpool-demand-thorough-and-transparent-review Interesting “Sky Sports News understands the club do not want to single out an official and have taken umbrage with PGMOL's framing of events as "a significant human...
  14. Tim Punter

    TOT v LIV

    Fair point, The club has made a formal request to PGMOL to receive the match officials’ audio from the game. So if Howard Webb thinks there is nothing to hide, just release it, and let's move on, if the explanation matches what has been said. As Klopp said after the game, people make mistakes
  15. Tim Punter

    TOT v LIV

    Liverpool haven't asked for a reply, they just want the full facts of what happened. Think that is a very reasonable response after such a calamitous error
  16. Tim Punter

    TOT v LIV

    Really? Liverpool had gone down to 10 men and scored a perfectly good goal, which would have changed the dynamics of the game completely. Klopp was very magnanimous after the game, and the club however has every right to hear the full story of what happened, especially as a lot of the officials...
  17. Tim Punter

    TOT v LIV

    Yes, this didn't feel right at the time, as Darren England, by having the freeze frame there when the referee arrives, is setting the agenda. We don't know what was said, but you can almost guess as Hooper is walking to the screen, England is telling him 'that's excessive force'. Surely the ref...
  18. Tim Punter

    TOT v LIV

    But I think Liverpool have every right to push for a better explanation as it is unsatisfactory. So pressure now on Webb for a proper disclosure and review. Apparently the UAE appointments might be part of the push as well.
  19. Tim Punter

    TOT v LIV

    Liverpool are not happy, and can fully understand why
  20. Tim Punter

    TOT v LIV

    Yes, can’t blame the AR at all
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