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    WOL Vs WHU

    I do think the interpretation of the Law needs a clarification. I think we need to know which test to apply. Logically, I think there could be be two interpretations of 'preventing an opponent from playing or being able to play the ball' 1. The test is strictly whether the player could have...
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    WOL Vs WHU

    That's my point - you could read it that way. However, it doesn't work literally without a qualification. What if the player whose line of vision was obstructed was a defender 20 yards away ? Common sense says it only applies where the opponent had some chance of playing the ball, but that...
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    Rainbow Laces

    Wearing rainbow laces by definition has nothing to do with bias in the way a referee officiates. In that sense, it's just a non-issue. Is it problematic as a political statement ? I think 99% of people see wearing rainbow laces as simply showing support for inclusivity, not an endorsement of...
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    WOL Vs WHU

    @socal lurker and @JamesL I have sympathy with both points of view. If you just look at the diagram, you would say this 'must be' penalised. If you just read the text of the Law as a piece of English language..... 'preventing an opponent from playing or being able to play the ball by clearly...
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    BHA ARS

    Clear cut penalty for me. If Lamptey gets the ball cleanly and there is unavoidable contact afterwards there is a discussion to be had. In this case his slight touch on the ball is incidental to the main event, which is the trip.
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    Level 4 - What Happens?

    I think we make a mistake if we conflate a hobby with a job. Before I started officiating, I played for a while at a similar level. Whilst some clubs and a few players earn silly money, most in the middle to lower reaches of the NLS would have a similar equation on time spent to money earned...
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    Level 4 - What Happens?

    The L4 experience also varies across the country - not the AR bit, where you will do Step 3 and 4 lines wherever you are. Middles look very different In some parts of the South East, you will only do Step 5, but just on one league so you see the same teams over and over again. At the other...
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    Trouble in Paradise

    Agree rugby (both codes) has a different ethos. But reject drugs err no. Massive issue with steroid use, not least in South African junior rugby union Reject cheating - at least as much gamesmanship, they just call it ****housery and laugh about it. Neil Back anyone ?
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    MOAS emails

    Anyone else having issues with the MOAS confirmation emails ? My April fixtures are on MOAS, but no emails so only knew they were there when I logged in and looked. Could be just me, but can't see any reason why and heard anecdotally some others may be having issues
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    Trouble in Paradise

    Rugby is often lauded as getting things right, and it is in a much better place on some things - general player / official respect and crowd behaviour being the most obvious (and by the way this applies just as much to Rugby League as Rugby Union). However they are far from having everything...
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    WSL/WC referee fees

    Last post on this, because it's going nowhere., You've completely misrepresented what I have said and then put in quotes something I haven't said and wouldn't say and called it subconsciously sexist. That's not an argument and is bordering on libellous. Enough
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    WSL/WC referee fees

    You are entitled to your view - no problem with that. You are not entitled to call me a sexist just because I disagree with you.
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    WSL/WC referee fees

    No. I'm calling BS on that one. It's absolutely not and that's a lazy argument. I'm talking about what I think is 'right' and 'fair'. I wouldn't argue for a big increase in match fees at my current level either. Some of us can engage in a discussion without only wearing a black (or red) shirt.
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    WSL/WC referee fees

    Equivalent level of referee currently assigned to WSL games. i.e. not Michael Oliver et al They are also already closer to PL pay than the players or managers
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    WSL/WC referee fees

    They are not paying lower fees at the moment. They are already paying higher fees than to the equivalent level of referee (to be clear male or female) in men's football
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    WSL/WC referee fees

    Err....as a level 3 I get £65 per game for a middle .... ?? Plus most of the top WSL officials referee across men's and women's football, so they are doing both anyway. Until the depth of the women's game grows, that also has to be the optimum way to develop officials for the top of the...
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    WSL/WC referee fees

    Of course fees are set in line with what is affordable by teams (not the same as clubs) at that level of football. The argument was about varying that depending on what the individual club can afford, which is clearly wrong. You can't charge a bigger club more than a smaller club in the same...
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    WSL/WC referee fees

    Being able to afford something is not a logical reason to be charged it. Match fee based on the club owner's bank balance is wrong
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    WSL/WC referee fees

    The nonsense would be different fees based on different attendances in the same league. There is precedent for uplift for televised matches, which has some logic, but beyond that makes no sense. And the rather charmless 'boot-licking' comment is unnecessary and unbecoming
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    WSL/WC referee fees

    The gauge has to be financial sustainability, which means costs go up as revenues go up, with a 'fair' distribution to all participants. We all know what happens in football when that's not the case. I love the rate at which women's football has taken off and officials' fees have risen and...
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