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Norway Vs England

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Thanks for letting me know, but based on the video footage you wouldn't need to use technology to see that something weird was going on...
This isn’t confirmed btw, just what someone told me they’d said!

Hard luck tonight! You acquitted yourselves incredibly well. Was billed as Kane vs Haaland and neither turned up on the night. But fortunately we have a Jude and he just about made the difference!
 
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Quite disappointed with the officials. Maybe the heat was a factor for Turpin.

Couple of wrong offsides, a lot of missed fouls, several incorrect KMIs, rerefereeing with selective arbitrary forensics… turned his back on play missing the “foul”’on Kane, looked sluggish generally…

But the thing i hated most… what is the point of introducing counts for GKs and TIs if you then allow players to delay the game by kicking the ball away. I get it, the refs have been told not to card, but joking with the Norway captain twice about it, and not even bothering warning players from both sides … argh… presents so badly… and is rubbish for us at grassroots.

(Jed Spence I salute you!)
 
LOL @ ITV interviewer getting owned by Tuchel for his BS questions.
Likewise the Bellingham answer.

If only our politicians could answer like that - straight up honesty and not taking the bait, but throwing straight back at them.
 
It is so cleary visible that the ball hits something, but unfortunately FIFA is FIFA, so I don't expect any explanation. Nyland has a tendency to upset modern technology though seeing as he managed fool goal line technology for Aston Villa a few years back as well...
I've seen two videos of this, one shows absolutely no evidence of the ball hitting a cable and moving, the other shows a clear change in direction of the ball. They can't both be right so I can only assume a case of fake AI here.
 
Some Norwegians wanted a penalty on this one seeing how you aren't allowed to push someone inside the box... I would say normally that it is too soft as well, but it is hard to claim that Haaland pushed much harder at least.
I think the England goal, with the wire, and the disallowed goal (more on the lack of consistency across the whole game of football) are the biggest complaints atm though.
For me there’s a big difference in this.
Yes there’s a bit of a push here but it is as part of a challenge for the ball, where as Haaland clearly pushed Anderson with 2 hands not as any part of any challenge.
Anderson probably could have stayed standing, but in a world of VAR they didn’t have much choice
 
I've seen two videos of this, one shows absolutely no evidence of the ball hitting a cable and moving, the other shows a clear change in direction of the ball. They can't both be right so I can only assume a case of fake AI here.

There was a field goal in the NFL last season in which one angle made it look like the ball 100% hit the camera wire but other angles eventually showed the wire was no where near the path of the kick. I'm willing to keep my mind open that nothing actually happened despite the path of the ball looking strange.
 
Why did we see absolutely no movement in the line before or after the spike allegedly caused by the hair 'touch' in the offside one? In this goal kick trace it's wobbling all over the place after the ball has been kicked.
 
Is the ball sensor tech designed to pick contact with 'things'? Not sure. But it definitely looked like something changed the trajectory of the ball. Maybe a sudden gust of wind? Can the video evidence trump the sensor tech? There is precedent for video evidence overriding GLT on multiple occasions.

Other than that the Kane no foul call went Norway way and I think it was correct by referee and VAR. The disallowed goal for the push by Haaland went England way and I think it was the coorect outcome by wrong process. It was a 'foul' but not enough for VAR to get involved.
 
Is the ball sensor tech designed to pick contact with 'things'? Not sure. But it definitely looked like something changed the trajectory of the ball. Maybe a sudden gust of wind? Can the video evidence trump the sensor tech? There is precedent for video evidence overriding GLT on multiple occasions.

Other than that the Kane no foul call went Norway way and I think it was correct by referee and VAR. The disallowed goal for the push by Haaland went England way and I think it was the coorect outcome by wrong process. It was a 'foul' but not enough for VAR to get involved.

This wording of it's a foul but it's not enough of a foul for VAR to get involved is something I can't get on board with because clearly FIFA has a lower threshold for VAR intervention, it is basically if the referee misses a foul and for me it was a clear foul then the VAR rightly gets involved as that is their instruction.

I think even in the PL that gets given as they want to tighten up on the holding and pushing stuff in the box for the upcoming season but I so can see them going with the "referees call" of backing the penalty just because there is contact.

We have to accept there is no "referees call" in this world cup, if its a wrong decision, it will get recommended to be overturned.
 
This wording of it's a foul but it's not enough of a foul for VAR to get involved is something I can't get on board with because clearly FIFA has a lower threshold for VAR intervention, it is basically if the referee misses a foul and for me it was a clear foul then the VAR rightly gets involved as that is their instruction.

I think even in the PL that gets given as they want to tighten up on the holding and pushing stuff in the box for the upcoming season but I so can see them going with the "referees call" of backing the penalty just because there is contact.

We have to accept there is no "referees call" in this world cup, if its a wrong decision, it will get recommended to be overturned.
Fair point on my 'wording'. To be clear, for me it was not a clear and obvious error by the referee to 'ignore' that push. Happy to agree to disagree on our views on C&O.

And I actually believe FIFA has announced they want a higher threshold on VAR intervention for physical offences.
 
I just saw, in our sports news, a square on camera angle for the debated goal kick and it doesnt show anything supporting contact with a wire. The trajectory is a little weird but, somthing you would get from a lot of back spin or head wind.
 
I think VAR cancelled itself out with the cancelled penalty and soft push. Both arguably not warranting of VAR intervention as not clear and obvious mistakes. I actually think both outcomes were correct in the end, but the VAR intervention, not so much.

Really sorry if this offends, but I simply can not see the wiregate impact on the ball - perhaps it is my England tinted glasses, but I’ve looked at all official replays, videos and slow motion replays and can not clearly see it.

I think what is definitely true is that Norway were great this competition and played some cracking football!

Playing football in that humidity last night clearly affected the quality of football - these things really need to be considered when choosing venues for hosting the competition in the future.
 
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