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Penalty shootout coin toss proposed change

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In the old days, it did always use to be one coin toss, though the team winning it had to take the first kick. The Referee would decide which end the penalty kicks were to be taken from!! Some may say some progress may have been made since, whilst others may long for those times!
 
There are a few ways that this can be viewed -negative or positive. In one sense, introducing anything for the the first time in the biggest world tournament in the world is a big step, but on the other hand, innovative, be it only the toss of the coin, or all the other new Laws, which would not have normally be introduced until 1st July & overall, have been a plus.
 
es1 said:
Yep, this makes a lot of sense

Winning both tosses can be a big advantage

Giving one advantage to either side is an excellent idea
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But you can't win both coin tosses?? The referee tosses the coin to decide what end the kicks are taken. No team has a choice for this..
 
IglooReferee said:
But you can't win both coin tosses?? The referee tosses the coin to decide what end the kicks are taken. No team has a choice for this..
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It’s a perceived win as one team usually benefits from the first coin toss. Less so at the World Cup though as there are so many neutral supporters.

The cynic in me thinks if this becomes part of law clubs will relocate the away fans so they aren’t behind a goal, that way the penalties will always be in front of their own fans.
 
IglooReferee said:
But you can't win both coin tosses?? The referee tosses the coin to decide what end the kicks are taken. No team has a choice for this..
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At our level, sure. An end is an end (and we all know we can ‘manufacture’ the end toss to make it look like it’s done), but in the Big Mac Meganormo Dome brought to you by Exxon Oil ™ Stadium, one club will massively benefit with their seated fans allocated behind one goal.
 
RustyRef said:
It’s a perceived win as one team usually benefits from the first coin toss. Less so at the World Cup though as there are so many neutral supporters.

The cynic in me thinks if this becomes part of law clubs will relocate the away fans so they aren’t behind a goal, that way the penalties will always be in front of their own fans.
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Interestingly, at Notts County’s ground at Meadow Lane, Home supporters have the stands behind the goal at each end - one end is the Family Stand and the other end is the more vocal element (let’s say!!). The Away spectators are placed in part of the Jimmy Sirrell stand along one side of the ground, which could be part of or all of it depending on how many the opposition are bringing.
 
RustyRef said:
It’s a perceived win as one team usually benefits from the first coin toss. Less so at the World Cup though as there are so many neutral supporters.

The cynic in me thinks if this becomes part of law clubs will relocate the away fans so they aren’t behind a goal, that way the penalties will always be in front of their own fans.
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Easier to segregate away fans if they have their own stand I'd imagine, but obviously that vastly depends on the size of the stadium as to whether they'd have the whole stand or just a section of it.
 
DavidObs said:
Interestingly, at Notts County’s ground at Meadow Lane, Home supporters have the stands behind the goal at each end - one end is the Family Stand and the other end is the more vocal element (let’s say!!). The Away spectators are placed in part of the Jimmy Sirrell stand along one side of the ground, which could be part of or all of it depending on how many the opposition are bringing.
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I know there are rules in the Premier League about where away fans have to be placed. They definitely need to be pitchside, but even that has exemptions as neither Sunderland or Newcastle have away fans anywhere even vaguely close to the pitch. Pretty sure both have argued that relocating them would be impossible without risking segregation and possible safety issues.
 
RustyRef said:
I know there are rules in the Premier League about where away fans have to be placed. They definitely need to be pitchside, but even that has exemptions as neither Sunderland or Newcastle have away fans anywhere even vaguely close to the pitch. Pretty sure both have argued that relocating them would be impossible without risking segregation and possible safety issues.
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I was at the last 2 Home games of the season at Notts County - one being the last League game & the other, 2nd leg of the semi final play off. For the first game against Bristol Rovers, although they only had pride to play for still brought 850. So the pitch side stand had both sides of spectators, with a big cotton banner plus security separating the two (overall ok, but still could feel the angst from BR). For the 2nd game, it looked like Chesterfield had all of the pitch side stand.
 
RustyRef said:
It’s a perceived win as one team usually benefits from the first coin toss. Less so at the World Cup though as there are so many neutral supporters.

The cynic in me thinks if this becomes part of law clubs will relocate the away fans so they aren’t behind a goal, that way the penalties will always be in front of their own fans.
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A few clubs already do this (Notts County and Wolves (usually) being 2 I can think of), but I think you're right that this may become commonplace if this change is introduced
 
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