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When players, especially keepers it seems, go down injured the rest of the team seemingly go to "have a drink" and have new fresh tactics given to them - especially if losing.

Highlighted in the wonens game again recently, do you think there should be a "boundary" that players can not go in and will receive a caution, if crossed into?

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Women's Super League: Chelsea's Sonia Bompastor calls for rule change over goalkeeper treatment

Chelsea manager Sonia Bompastor has called for the rules to be changed over goalkeeper timeouts.
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This is being addressed or at least looked at by IFAB. One of the solutions offered is if the keeper is injured, one of the field player should be removed from the field for the restart.

Having a boundary is not a bad idea but teams will find a workaround. E.g, written instructions players can discuss amongst themselves within their boundary.
 
Like the idea of 'sacrificing' an outfield player if the keeper goes down - think that will be very effective at preventing this
 
I think it should just be an offence to convey tactical instructions during a player receiving medical assessment. It won't stop it from happening to kill an opposition teams momentum but it certainly will stop it in some situations.
I had a game a couple of months ago where a team were forced in to an early change around 20 minutes due to an injury. Because of the rushed nature of the substitution they didn't have time to convey the relevant tactical instructions. 2 minutes later the GK was 'injured'. 5 mins later he was 'injured' again. Every single person in that ground knew what was happening, but my hands were tied.

I've actually been on the line to a referee a few years back. The GK went down 'injured' to waste time while holding the ball and he told the player 'you are not having treatment, you're not injured' and the player said 'you can't tell me that, do you want to go viral as the guy who refused a GK injury treatment and awarded an IDFK against him?'. He replied 'good point' and stopped the game for treatment.
 
Away manager was having conniptions on Wednesday with a late (and imho genuine) injury just after the home side had equalised. Was wanging on about them chatting tactics during the treatment time like it was some dark art. Told him there was nothing stopping him talking to his players as well, and I’m wearing a watch not a chess clock.
 
Make a law changes that a treated player can't come back on until the next stoppage.
Someone nominated to go off for the goalkeeper.



See plenty of refs wave players straight back on after what are clearly tactical injuries, I want to see them looking fit and ready to come back on before they're allowed back on 😉. Player safety is paramount ..


We're going to see plenty of tactical instructions during the cooling / advert breaks at the World Cup.
 
bester said:
We're going to see plenty of tactical instructions during the cooling / advert breaks at the World Cup.
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This is where, as its cooling breaks, there should be designated "drinks" area (shaded if it needs to be) where players go for that cool down in each corner of the pitch. No coaches, physios etc allowed. Just 11 outfield players.

I remember teams abused this hugely during covid.
 
bester said:
That's been the case since they made players go off after treatment.
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Agree, but then if we know an injury is genuine and are sympathetic with it, we have the ability to manipulate things somewhat and get them on sooner compared with if it isn't genuine. If it's a blanket 'until the next stoppage' then we would lose that.
 
Making an outfield player go off would only be a deterrent in England at the pro level as the 30 second rule isn’t in place anywhere else.

I’d rather see an exclusion zone, during an injury players cannot go within 20 metres of the technical areas and all coaches have to remain seated.
 
Another example tonight in Blackburn v Preston NE, when Away’s goalkeeper went to ground with about 5 mins of stoppage time to go. Usual thing, he didn’t look injured & outfield players to the TA to receive instructions. However, good thing was they concede the only goal of the game with 20 seconds left. Serves them right in my book - perhaps the Manager will now stop doing it.
 
DavidObs said:
Another example tonight in Blackburn v Preston NE, when Away’s goalkeeper went to ground with about 5 mins of stoppage time to go. Usual thing, he didn’t look injured & outfield players to the TA to receive instructions. However, good thing was they concede the only goal of the game with 20 seconds left. Serves them right in my book - perhaps the Manager will now stop doing it.
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Its becoming like certain Amarican sports, different playbooks, different set of players for different plays, time outs etc.
 
IFAB to propose that players to stay off for 1-minute after treatment, FIFA wanted 2-minutes but too much push back.

Nothing on goalkeepers.
 
Unfortunately this is going to punish the genuine injuries but players have no one else to blame but themselves. Collectively, by play acting they have forced the law makers' hands.

I think 1 minute is a good balance to deter the fake ones and not over-punish the genuine ones.

Hopefully over time this would curb the fake injury culture and get it reduced to a shorter time.
 
Has the 30s had any effect in the PL and EFL? I don't watch enough these days to make a decent assessment.
 
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