Do you guess on match changing decisions?
We can guess at throw ins occasionally, we can guess at whether a foul has been committed occasionally. However, I'm not a believer in guessing at penalties, red cards or goal/no goal.
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We can guess at throw ins occasionally, we can guess at whether a foul has been committed occasionally. However, I'm not a believer in guessing at penalties, red cards or goal/no goal.
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Im with you on this one.
Educated guesses can be done and even explained well.
But never guessing the 3 main things you've mentioned.
Yes. I have made key match decisions based upon a very strong balance of probabilities when I haven't seen an incident clearly
This has served me well
In my second season, a GK in control of the ball was dispossessed resulting in a goal. I didn't see it and allowed the goal even though it was fairly obvious what had happened. Fortunately, it was in the last minute and didn't affect the result, so I got away with it without carnage
I learned that I didn't need to see what happened if I knew what had happened and have acted accordingly in similar circumstances on many occasions ever since
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I wasn't referring to major decisions being a guess.
But sometimes we have to when some things happens so quickly like who got the last touch being the biggest one.
No.
I’m not sure what relevance these posts are. Yes, for on the spot decisions we might have to make the occasional educated guess but we’re talking VAR with slow motion replays with multiple angles. There’s no guesswork going on, it’s they don’t know the answer so we’ll stick with the referees decision
I was talking about us refs guessing, not VAR.
But this is a topic about a potential handball that VAR reviewed and couldn’t find evidence, so not at all relevant and that is why there is confusion.
Guessing on a TI that you aren’t sure about is a world apart from VAR making a decision where they have loads of replays and must have conclusive proof to change the referee’s decision on a factual match incident (I.e. did it hit the arm or not)
They could have asked the ref to look at it and make a decision on that.
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I know that under current rules they can’t, but I do wish the ref at the option to ask for it. Maybe I’m adding more complication to it.
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I don't really know how many more times this can be said on a refereeing forum, they cannot ask the referee to look at it. To recommend a review they must first have determined there has been a clear and obvious error, and that is only for subjective decisions. When the decision is factual, e.g. offside, goal scored by hand / arm, etc, they will not recommend a review and rather will just make the decision and inform the referee. There would be absolutely no benefit for the referee to go to the screen for a factual decision, two people have pored over it on a very large screen, it would be nonsensical to then ask a referee to look at it on a tiny pitch side screen.