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Injury in the last minute

ladbroke8745

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This weekend I had a game that I had to abandon in the last minute.
Couldn't even say it was time up as literally seconds earlier I was asked how long to go and I said just over a minute.
Ball was out for a throw in. Thrown in, loose ball from knock on and two, opposing, players challenge for it. Both go sliding in. In my opinion neither were reckless in their challenges but one was getting there just before the other and with that I blew to award a free kick to the defending team (who were winning 2-1).
But the defending player then had the attacking player fall on him. All innocent in my opinion. It was purely just how they came together.
The fall though managed to break the defending players ankle. And I mean it was messed up out of position.
Immediately called the coach and anyone that could come on to get to him.

I then took decision to abandon the game.

Can't move the player.

Losing coach unhappy that I've abandoned, but understood why.
But is now saying that the match should be replayed.
I told him it is not up to me. I just report the incident to the league.

What would you have done/said differently?
 
The Ref Stop
This weekend I had a game that I had to abandon in the last minute.
Couldn't even say it was time up as literally seconds earlier I was asked how long to go and I said just over a minute.
Ball was out for a throw in. Thrown in, loose ball from knock on and two, opposing, players challenge for it. Both go sliding in. In my opinion neither were reckless in their challenges but one was getting there just before the other and with that I blew to award a free kick to the defending team (who were winning 2-1).
But the defending player then had the attacking player fall on him. All innocent in my opinion. It was purely just how they came together.
The fall though managed to break the defending players ankle. And I mean it was messed up out of position.
Immediately called the coach and anyone that could come on to get to him.

I then took decision to abandon the game.

Can't move the player.

Losing coach unhappy that I've abandoned, but understood why.
But is now saying that the match should be replayed.
I told him it is not up to me. I just report the incident to the league.

What would you have done/said differently?
Nothing.
 
Ultimately it’s up the league what happens.

From the machday part, there are many factors to consider.

Were you losing daylight? Did the pitch have floodlights? How long was it going to take for emergency services to arrive and leave? What was the score at the time? How long was left? (Although you answer this in your post but needs to be considered)

Is there’s 1 minute left, you aren’t going to wait 2 hours for an ambulance to arrive and leave.
 
Appreciate you said you’d just told people just over a minute. Think I’d have blown for full time. The referee is sole time keeper, nothing could have come of it (providing they had had at least 90 minutes).
Anyone with half a brain would understand the decision (from the losing side I mean). But then that’s easy for me to say typing on my phone. If I was in the situation that may have felt wrong and I may have abandoned too!
 
For further context, it was an U13 game.

Winning team had the injury.

My next game, delayed a little because of this... I could see the paramedics with the boy and they left about 10 minutes before the end of my next game, an U16 match.
 
Agreed with @OldNavyRef. Just leave it to the league. My league (association) counts 75% duration played as acceptable time not to replay (with some exceptions).
 
Agreed with @OldNavyRef. Just leave it to the league. My league (association) counts 75% duration played as acceptable time not to replay (with some exceptions).
I have left it with the league and even told the coaches that my role is solely to ref the game. I report the facts and leave it up to them (the league)..
But the losing manager was not impressed.
 
Found out today, after my next door neighbours team also had an ankle break in his teams fixture (played on astro, very very wet) that they have to replay the whole game again (paying the next official £50 again) despite 10 minutes of the 80 minute match remaining.
Its been classed as an unfulfilled fixture. Based on that I'm guessing this game will also be the same.
Last weeks one is very harsh, if so, as they had a minute to play although score was 2-1.
Today's one was 10 minutes to go with the scoreline 4-0.
Apparently the scores don't count unless it's finished entirely.
If that's the case, I'll be forcing abandonment every week. Surely the league must have some limit to not have to replay games, especially youth level.
 
Found out today, after my next door neighbours team also had an ankle break in his teams fixture (played on astro, very very wet) that they have to replay the whole game again (paying the next official £50 again) despite 10 minutes of the 80 minute match remaining.
Its been classed as an unfulfilled fixture. Based on that I'm guessing this game will also be the same.
Last weeks one is very harsh, if so, as they had a minute to play although score was 2-1.
Today's one was 10 minutes to go with the scoreline 4-0.
Apparently the scores don't count unless it's finished entirely.
If that's the case, I'll be forcing abandonment every week. Surely the league must have some limit to not have to replay games, especially youth level.
In England it used to say in SCoR that leagues could make a decision on the outcome of the game if 70 minutes had been completed, that was adult and would have been different for youth. But that was taken out a few years ago and now is entirely at the discretion of the league. It now states ...

In the event of a Competition Match not being played or being abandoned owing to causes over which neither Club has control, it should be played in its entirety on a date to be mutually agreed by the two Clubs and approved by the Competition Failing such agreement and notification to the (Competition within [ ] days the Competition shall have the power to order the Match to be played on or before a given date. Where it is to the advantage of the Competition. The Management Committee shall also be empowered to order the score at the time of an abandonment to stand.

What they can't do, and I suspect this is also the case in Scotland, is just replay the remaining minutes, it is either the score at the time stands or the whole game is replayed.
 
In England it used to say in SCoR that leagues could make a decision on the outcome of the game if 70 minutes had been completed, that was adult and would have been different for youth. But that was taken out a few years ago and now is entirely at the discretion of the league. It now states ...

In the event of a Competition Match not being played or being abandoned owing to causes over which neither Club has control, it should be played in its entirety on a date to be mutually agreed by the two Clubs and approved by the Competition Failing such agreement and notification to the (Competition within [ ] days the Competition shall have the power to order the Match to be played on or before a given date. Where it is to the advantage of the Competition. The Management Committee shall also be empowered to order the score at the time of an abandonment to stand.

What they can't do, and I suspect this is also the case in Scotland, is just replay the remaining minutes, it is either the score at the time stands or the whole game is replayed.
Just think it's wrong personally.
My game more so.
Can't find a copy of the league rules here. Literally nothing on the website.
Neighbour has said he'll take it higher if needs to be.
 
Just think it's wrong personally.
My game more so.
Can't find a copy of the league rules here. Literally nothing on the website.
Neighbour has said he'll take it higher if needs to be.
All comes down to what the rules say. If I was ruling on an abandoned game that was 4-0 after 80 minutes I'd be 100% saying the result stands, even if it was much earlier than 80 minutes. But if it was 2-1 at that point in the game I'd be voting for the game to be replayed, in England there's no provision for just playing the last 10 minutes so would have to be replayed in full.

If a club didn't like our decision they would have the right to appeal to the league's sanctioning authority, i.e. the CFA to which they are registered. Don't know how that works in Scotland though.
 
Had a similar incident in my boy’s U13s game this weekend. His team winning 5-0 with 10 minutes to go. Oppo attacking in the box and his teammate makes an outstanding, clean tackle but their player lands awkwardly on outstretched arm. In immediate pain and tears, so I stop play (ball in keeper’s hands) and his wrist very clearly not right.

I would’ve been very happy to blow for full time if either coach suggested it and both were in agreement but their coach was clearly happy to continue so we had a 10 minute stoppage whilst he was looked after before mum took him off to local A&E.

In the circumstances it felt like the right decision with no complaints from any of the parents.
 
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