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2 offside calls in this game that are extremely close, could even be onside, yet flagged immediately and blown straight away.
The latter one he was through on goal and could easily cross for a simple tap in.

Thought they're meant to delay these very tight offside calls??
 
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2 offside calls in this game that are extremely close, could even be onside, yet flagged immediately and blown straight away.
The latter one he was through on goal and could easily cross for a simple tap in.

Thought they're meant to delay these very tight offside calls??
This was one of those where Wissa was through on goal and even had a nice simple square to Mbuemo if he was allowed to that the assistant flagged for immediately (well, about a second or two later). He never let it play out.
Considering the bottom defenders foot moreso over the one in the middle, this looks very close to actually being onside.
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This was one of those where Wissa was through on goal and even had a nice simple square to Mbuemo if he was allowed to that the assistant flagged for immediately (well, about a second or two later). He never let it play out.
Considering the bottom defenders foot moreso over the one in the middle, this looks very close to actually being onside.
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Seems offside. Nunez's leg just reaches past the defender's leg to be offside. Tight call by 3 inches.
 
This seems to me to be a very good example of the flash lag effect. I think it was just about offside, but so marginal you would think the AR would have kept his flag down until the move is over. However flash lag probably meant that the AR saw the running player well ahead of where he actually was, and so flagged what seemed to him a clear and obvious offside.
 
Seems offside. Nunez's leg just reaches past the defender's leg to be offside. Tight call by 3 inches.
So you're suggesting the Liverpool player is closer to the goal line than the Brentford player?
Just for context, the Brentford player is actually the one attacking, not Liverpool.

The point I'm making is that the flag should have stayed down until the attack was complete like they have always done, even for the money obvious of offside calls. So why flag early for this one?
 
I don't believe Nunez is even visible on that image. As @ladbroke8745 alludes to, the Liverpool players seen there are defenders.
I was sort of assuming Liverpool were offside based on all the talk of Nunez's offsides. My screen is black and white, so couldn't really tell.
So you're suggesting the Liverpool player is closer to the goal line than the Brentford player?
Just for context, the Brentford player is actually the one attacking, not Liverpool.

The point I'm making is that the flag should have stayed down until the attack was complete like they have always done, even for the money obvious of offside calls. So why flag early for this one?
The flag should snap up for offsides when an offside offense is commited, from what I'm familliar with, the referee doesn't call the offside until the attack is finished to see if the defense can gain an advantage after. I don't know about the AR's call for offside though. But I do know of the referee's late calls for offsides, as I've seen clips of the EPL with late offside calls. Almost all follow similarly. Maybe this AR was more active or had a different style? I mean, it doesn't say anything in the LotG? Or does it?
 
I was sort of assuming Liverpool were offside based on all the talk of Nunez's offsides. My screen is black and white, so couldn't really tell.

The flag should snap up for offsides when an offside offense is commited, from what I'm familliar with, the referee doesn't call the offside until the attack is finished to see if the defense can gain an advantage after. I don't know about the AR's call for offside though. But I do know of the referee's late calls for offsides, as I've seen clips of the EPL with late offside calls. Almost all follow similarly. Maybe this AR was more active or had a different style? I mean, it doesn't say anything in the LotG? Or does it?
In the top leagues and competitions where VAR is used, the AR's are told that they should not flag immediately if it is a tight offside call, but do so once the outcome of the attack is known. That allows the VAR decision to be made calmly; an immediate flag would be confusing, and leave the AR out of position (as they would stop before signalling)
 
Just seen that he never even had a free kick against him.
Whether advantage played or not, nothing even given for this.

First time I’ve actually seen that. I’m guessing referee missed it entirely, which is rather poor. At the very least, AR should be able to give him some information. But all 4 of them seemingly missing it isn’t good, seems rather obvious.
 
First time I’ve actually seen that. I’m guessing referee missed it entirely, which is rather poor. At the very least, AR should be able to give him some information. But all 4 of them seemingly missing it isn’t good, seems rather obvious.
He's certainly lucky, but that's a long way from both ARs for them to be getting involved. Referee was very close to it, so they'd have be 100% certain before coming in there, especially as it would almost certainly lead to a second caution. The AR in that half of the pitch would have been looking through a lot of players, plus the impact was on the opposite side of the defender's foot to him so wouldn't see the extent of the contact.
 
He's certainly lucky, but that's a long way from both ARs for them to be getting involved. Referee was very close to it, so they'd have be 100% certain before coming in there, especially as it would almost certainly lead to a second caution. The AR in that half of the pitch would have been looking through a lot of players, plus the impact was on the opposite side of the defender's foot to him so wouldn't see the extent of the contact.
Had the contact been minimal, I’d completely agree with you. But there’s easily enough contact for 1 of the 4 see it.

Look at the look on Slots face. He knows we’ve gotten away with one. If he can see it, 4O or AR1 should be seeing it.
 
Had the contact been minimal, I’d completely agree with you. But there’s easily enough contact for 1 of the 4 see it.

Look at the look on Slots face. He knows we’ve gotten away with one. If he can see it, 4O or AR1 should be seeing it.
May be, but there is a huge difference between a manager cringing and ARs getting involved in decisions from 60m away. I know it is easier with comms, but equally there's a reason why we are supposed to be 10 to 20m from decisions, all 3 of the other officials were a long way from this.
 
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