In that case, either the broadcasters mislead viewers or they didn't check it long enough!Not sure how many more times we have to say this on here but everything is checked.
In that case, either the broadcasters mislead viewers or they didn't check it long enough!Not sure how many more times we have to say this on here but everything is checked.
I would suggest that a long check proves more consideration of an event, though. The way it is currently handled does absolutely nothing to quell concerns.There seems to be a myth that if play isn't held up for an extended period of time, no check has taken place...
Broadcasters creating drama to boost their ratings????? Never would have guessed they do thatbroadcasters mislead viewers
Or they checked it it and came to the conclusion I, and other posters, have done .In that case, either the broadcasters mislead viewers or they didn't check it long enough!
That's exactly where I'm at, nowhere near violent enough for VC, but surprised there wasn't a caution. Suspect how early it was in the game saved him the yellow.Think I am a minority as usual with these situations..
I didn't think it was violent Conduct.
The force used was not excessive (if as I do you don't subscribe to the any force is excessive when no force is expected) and it's not brutality (i.e. it's not a violent, savage, or ruthless action) in my view.
I was however surprised at no sanction. I felt it was deserving of a yellow card.
if that was the case I think the crowd noise was able to overpower AT's whistle in this case.
There's also a barge that puts Trent in the net and stops him clearing after it hits the post that is a third at least coin-flip reason the goal could be disallowed. Between that, the HB and the initial foul, this goal was never being given and it's a red herring to focus on it.This was by first view of it without any game audio, and immediately thought would've been chalked off for a handball by Havertz anyway,
Great angle. The original foul looks nailed on from here.This was by first view of it without any game audio, and immediately thought would've been chalked off for a handball by Havertz anyway,
He did get a caution. If the referee saying "I saw that" counts.I was watching the game at the pub with my two mates, one being an Arsenal fan and the other Liverpool. We were all jointly convinced we could hear a faint whistle as Havertz put the ball over the keeper, so if that was the case I think the crowd noise was able to overpower AT's whistle in this case.
As for the Van Dijk situation I can see the claim for violent conduct but I simply don't think it was enough, was surprised not to see a yellow for it though (unless I missed it).
The HB also was on an arm that also hit the defender on the head. So three fouls and a handball. Starring Hugh Grant.There's also a barge that puts Trent in the net and stops him clearing after it hits the post that is a third at least coin-flip reason the goal could be disallowed. Between that, the HB and the initial foul, this goal was never being given and it's a red herring to focus on it.
The check goes on in the background, and unless we're privy to the VAR discussions (which we're not) we don't know how long it lasted. Could have been 30 seconds, could have been five minutes.In that case, either the broadcasters mislead viewers or they didn't check it long enough!
But no longer than when play restarts. At which point any check is over.Could have been 30 seconds, could have been five minutes.
Well, not necessarily. If it's not over and they still want to continue checking, that's when they world ask the referee to hold the restart until the check is complete.But no longer than when play restarts. At which point any check is over.
Which is still no longer than when play restarts. Which is the ultimate signal that any check is now over.Well, not necessarily. If it's not over and they still want to continue checking, that's when they world ask the referee to hold the restart until the check is complete.
The thing is, play could easily continue for several minutes with a background check still going on and we would be none the wiser, if the check ultimately comes to nothing. So the simple fact that we weren't aware a check was going on doesn't mean that it was a short check - as I said, we just don't know how long the check went on for because that's not revealed to the viewing public.
Yes, sorry, that's correct. But my main point was and is, that we can't assume that only a short and cursory check was done, when play is continuing after any given incident.Which is still no longer than when play restarts. Which is the ultimate signal that any check is now over.
Correct, because the commentators only become aware there is a check when VAR tells the referee to hold the restart. If it is checked and cleared quickly, or whilst play is going on, they don't know about it.Yes, sorry, that's correct. But my main point was and is, that we can't assume that only a short and cursory check was done, when play is continuing after any given incident.