The Ref Stop

Arsenal v Liverpool

The Ref Stop
RefereeX said:
There seems to be a myth that if play isn't held up for an extended period of time, no check has taken place...
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I would suggest that a long check proves more consideration of an event, though. The way it is currently handled does absolutely nothing to quell concerns.
 
JamesL said:
Think I am a minority as usual with these situations..

I didn't think it was violent Conduct.

The force used was not excessive (if as I do you don't subscribe to the any force is excessive when no force is expected) and it's not brutality (i.e. it's not a violent, savage, or ruthless action) in my view.

I was however surprised at no sanction. I felt it was deserving of a yellow card.
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That's exactly where I'm at, nowhere near violent enough for VC, but surprised there wasn't a caution. Suspect how early it was in the game saved him the yellow.
 
bester said:
This was by first view of it without any game audio, and immediately thought would've been chalked off for a handball by Havertz anyway,

https://twitter.com/x/status/1850803792851140642
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There's also a barge that puts Trent in the net and stops him clearing after it hits the post that is a third at least coin-flip reason the goal could be disallowed. Between that, the HB and the initial foul, this goal was never being given and it's a red herring to focus on it.
 
Samuel said:
I was watching the game at the pub with my two mates, one being an Arsenal fan and the other Liverpool. We were all jointly convinced we could hear a faint whistle as Havertz put the ball over the keeper, so if that was the case I think the crowd noise was able to overpower AT's whistle in this case.

As for the Van Dijk situation I can see the claim for violent conduct but I simply don't think it was enough, was surprised not to see a yellow for it though (unless I missed it).
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He did get a caution. If the referee saying "I saw that" counts.
 
GraemeS said:
There's also a barge that puts Trent in the net and stops him clearing after it hits the post that is a third at least coin-flip reason the goal could be disallowed. Between that, the HB and the initial foul, this goal was never being given and it's a red herring to focus on it.
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The HB also was on an arm that also hit the defender on the head. So three fouls and a handball. Starring Hugh Grant.
 
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