England Vs Croatia

[bester]

Sustained pulling on Quansah, VAR rightly sends the red to the monitor.

Wouldn't have been given in EPL as he wasnt getting on the end of it

 

[ladbroke8745]

Sustained pulling on Quansah, VAR rightly sends the red to the monitor.

Wouldn't have been given in EPL as he wasnt getting on the end of it

Thing is, i fully agree with this.
Lots of teams are cheating in many ways, trying to gain massive edges, in several situations and our refs are buying it with red cards for players being clearly antagonised by opponents looking for confrontation or lots of holding and grabbing of shirts to stop runs especially at set pieces.

If EPL refs actually started doing this (what the Danish ref done) and clamping down on what is effectively gamesmanship then I could see, eventually, this being eradicated.

 

[RefereeX]

Was a little surprised it was given to be honest, as I don’t think it was a sustained hold that impacted Quansah’s ability to challenge for the ball. Had Quansah not thrown himself to the ground, I doubt we get it, which means we’re effectively rewarding him for doing so. But I suppose the defender chose to play silly games and guess what he won?

 

[one]

he wasnt getting on the end of it

I think he had a reasonable chance to get a head on it from the one replay I saw.

Had Quansah not thrown himself to the ground, I doubt we get it, which means we’re effectively rewarding him for doing so.

And the flip side is if we don't penalise it, we are rewarding defenders for holding. The solution is much simpler but needs more courage. Make the same decision regardless of what the attacker does, i.e. give Isak a penalty even if he didn't go to ground and did not vigorously appeal.

 

[Big Cat]

'Pro Ref' said they were gonna penalize these incidents. Wrestling, pulling, not look at the ball. It's a PK with or without VAR
Caution depends on whether Ref thinks Quansah has a chance of playing the ball (SPA-SP). I'd support Caution and no Caution on this occasion

 

[RefereeX]

I don't think this is an egregious case of someone not looking at the ball just wrestling their opponent though. The defender was looking at ball, not Quansah. Yes there was minor and brief holding, but unless you're going to have zero tolerance for holding (fine, but we're a long way from that) it's not that bad IMO.

 

[Archer]

You don't have to look at things when you're holding them though.

Source: Just had a wee.

 

[ChasObserverRefDeveloper]

You don't have to look at things when you're holding them though.

Source: Just had a wee.

During a match?

 

[Archer]

What happens at Mayfield Park stays at Mayfield Park.

 

[JamesL]

You don't have to look at things when you're holding them though.

Source: Just had a wee.

The toilet:


You got to aim, "Archer"

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Also have not seen the penalty incident so couldn't possibly comment on that.