Advantage question

[SMYeaSM]

Using the VAR decision on the West Ham Vs Arsenal match as an example to make it easier to explain what I am asking,

If for example a corner kick is played, and in this instance an Arsenal player is holding a West Ham, player however the West Ham plays the ball to a teammate and I decide to give advantage, if there was a trip by another West Ham player on an Arsenal player immediately after playing advantage. What happens?

1) Does the original advantage continue
2) Do I cancel the advantage and give the free kick for the 1st offence in this case to the West Ham player that was being held
3) Give the free kick to Arsenal and therefore cancelling the advantage for the trip

 

[Gabriel]

If no advantage actually accrues, you punish the first offence, regardless of who committed it. So in this case, number 2 is your answer

(Edit: misunderstood the context, answers below more appropriate so ignore what I said)

 

[one]

I will answer on the assumption that you can cancel advantage. Where I am once you play advantage (the non offending team benefited) you can't cancel it.

In your case, after the second foul, does an opportunity still exist after the secon foul?

If yes then continue advantage.
If no, then which free kick of the two fouls is more beneficial to the non-offending team? Give that free kick.

If you give the free kick for the second foul you have effectively played advantage for the first foul.

 

[Hilly1618]

I’m struggling to understand this query.

I’m reading that you are playing an advantage but then the advantage doesn’t accrue because of an offence committed by the team you are playing the advantage for. Hope that’s right?

So the advantage hasn’t accrued for the team through their own wrong doing, I’m not going back for the original free kick, I’m awarding one to the opposing team.

 

[RefereeX]

I will answer on the assumption that you can cancel advantage. Where I am once you play advantage (the non offending team benefited) you can't cancel it.

In your case, after the second foul, does an opportunity still exist after the secon foul?

If yes then continue advantage.
If no, then which free kick of the two fouls is more beneficial to the non-offending team? Give that free kick.

If you give the free kick for the second foul you have effectively played advantage for the first foul.

Either one of us is misunderstanding the question or we don't agree.

The team who had the advantage initially then comitted a foul shortly after playing the advantage. You can't ignore the second foul, so you have to choose whether by the time the 2nd foul was comitted, the advantage had accrued and was over, in which case you'd award the second foul, if it hadn't (which sounds more likely in the scenario referred to) then you'd award the first foul. In reality, it depends on the length of time between the 2 fouls. If the 2nd foul is almost immediate, you'd award the first foul.

 

[one]

Either one of us is misunderstanding the question or we don't agree.

The team who had the advantage initially then comitted a foul shortly after playing the advantage. You can't ignore the second foul, so you have to choose whether by the time the 2nd foul was comitted, the advantage had accrued and was over, in which case you'd award the second foul, if it hadn't (which sounds more likely in the scenario referred to) then you'd award the first foul. In reality, it depends on the length of time between the 2 fouls. If the 2nd foul is almost immediate, you'd award the first foul.

I think I misunderstood the question. I'd agree with your answer for what I now think the OP question is.

Having said that the question I answered would have been a good question to ask too .

 

[bester]

The OP gave an example where the referee didn't actually play advantage, and would've been a penalty if he was giving the foul iirc. So ignoring that and assuming generic free kicks.

If the advantage didn't accrue due to the second foul, I wouldn't have a problem not going back. Accidental careless trip then go back, if he yanks someone back then possibly not. Wasted opportunity.