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The people: We hate VAR
Also the people: Why can't we have consistency on these 2 similar events where the on field decision was different.
 
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RefereeX said:
The people: We hate VAR
Also the people: Why can't we have consistency on these 2 similar events where the on field decision was different.
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The unfortunate reality is that if the events were subjective decisions (rather than obvious mistakes) VAR is unlikely / not meant to step in and "solve" the differing on-field decisions in any case ......
 
Russell Jones said:
The unfortunate reality is that if the events were subjective decisions (rather than obvious mistakes) VAR is unlikely / not meant to step in and "solve" the differing on-field decisions in any case ......
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This is what I mean. The entire difference on both of these is the on field decision and it not being obviously wrong enough for VAR to get involved, but those that bemoan VAR would be no better off without it, as the end result would be exactly as it was.
 
RefereeX said:
This is what I mean. The entire difference on both of these is the on field decision and it not being obviously wrong enough for VAR to get involved, but those that bemoan VAR would be no better off without it, as the end result would be exactly as it was.
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That just means perpetuating inconsistencies, and there are still inconsistencies in what VAR (really VARs) consider clear and obvious.
 
Hello @FA_PGMOL I’d like an explanation as to the difference in these two challenges? Thanks.
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For starters, one is a video replay and the other is a still image. 🙄

bloovee said:
So, does saying "End of" mean VAR won't bother with a review?
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He said "the on-field decision is a foul..." right? So taking in full context "end of" refers to the on-field decision.
 
I appreciate his head might be turned compared to his body to see incident but his camera shows no foul. Just sees Gabriel already falling dramatically.
 
one said:
He said "the on-field decision is a foul..." right? So taking in full context "end of" refers to the on-field decision
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"End of" is "end of discussion". Would that be a useful addition to the VAR protocol as code for "Don't bother recommending a review"?
 
RustyRef said:
You've taken it wrong again, it was very clear he was talking to a player when he said end of.
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Well, you've taken that wrong. I was admitting that's wasn't how I'd taken it. Which means it wasn't clear....

Is that what referees with VAR say to players? "The on-field decision is...."
 
bloovee said:
Well, you've taken that wrong. I was admitting that's wasn't how I'd taken it. Which means it wasn't clear....

Is that what referees with VAR say to players? "The on-field decision is...."
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You seem to have overlooked an obvious cut in the footage between those two statements. The 'end of' is clearly addressed to the player.
 
CaptainsPlease said:
You seem to have overlooked an obvious cut in the footage between those two statements. The 'end of' is clearly addressed to the player.
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So "the onfield decision is a foul" is addressed not to the player in front of him but to VAR, and (cut) "it's a clear foul, end of" to the players?

So in the end I've put 2 and 2 together - based on a cut made by PGMOL...
 
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