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Not sure if im allowed to post this.

Ronaldo gets, in my opinion, correctly sent off for violent conduct.

Fifa today has said he gets a 3 match ban, 2 suspended, so that he can play in the world cup.

I know we have no control over what happens after the match but what message does this send to players.
 
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bester said:
Rooney had a lower than standard ban just before a EUROs tournament
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Its ridiculous if im being honest.

Theyve committed the "crime" and should face the consequences.
His ego and stature has got him the leniency.
Can tell you now, if it was a player from, say, Uzbekistan or Cape Verde they'd have to sit out.
 
FIFA have always done this, players get a one game suspension and they review whether to include additional sanctions. This is even documented on their website (https://www.fifa.com/en/tournaments...sa-2025/articles/yellow-red-cards-suspensions). That said, I had zero doubt that Ronaldo wouldn't be suspended for the world cup, even had he properly punched an opponent FIFA would have made sure he played. Just the same as they manipulated things to get Inter Miami at the Club World Cup so that Messi was there.

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ladbroke8745 said:
Not sure if im allowed to post this.

Ronaldo gets, in my opinion, correctly sent off for violent conduct.

Fifa today has said he gets a 3 match ban, 2 suspended, so that he can play in the world cup.

I know we have no control over what happens after the match but what message does this send to players.
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I think the message is that you will be sent off and suspended.

Is this an abnormal punishment? From what @RustyRef has posted this seems to be normal fair for games played under this competition organiser.
 
JamesL said:
I think the message is that you will be sent off and suspended.

Is this an abnormal punishment? From what @RustyRef has posted this seems to be normal fair for games played under this competition organiser.
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But they've admitted it should be 3 games by saying its 3 but suspending 2 for 12 months on "good behaviour". Several reporters ive read have indicated it is because he has neve been sent off in 226 national team games.
The only other time they have reduced a ban, it seems, is when Zidane got let off after his headbutt in the WC final in 2006 but that was because he was retiring anyway and it was pointless, so was downgraded to community service.
They have said they will only act on the 2 games if he commits something similar in "gravity" to what he has done in this match. So again theyre saying what he done was bad but not bad enough to ban him properly.

But I assure you, if it was McGinn, Scotland would be without him for 3 games.
 
There were at least 3 cases off SFP in the club world cup. All suspended for 2 matches as per the regulations

14. MISCONDUCT OF PLAYERS AND OFFICIALS
1. Players and officials shall be suspended for misconduct as specified below and
may be fined accordingly:
a) one match for players who are sent off for denying the opposing team a goal
or an obvious goalscoring opportunity;
b) at least one match or an appropriate period of time for unsporting behaviour
towards an opponent or a person other than a match official;
c) at least one match for officials who are sent off for dissent by word or action;
d) at least one match for deliberately receiving a yellow or red card, including
in order to be suspended for an upcoming match or to ultimately have a
clean record;
e) at least two matches for serious foul play;
f) at least two matches for provoking spectators at a match by any means;
g) at least two matches or a specific period for acting with obvious intent to
cause a match official to make an incorrect decision or supporting their error
of judgement and thereby causing them to make an incorrect decision;
h) at least three matches for violent conduct;
i) at least three matches or an appropriate period of time for assault, including
elbowing, punching, kicking, biting, spitting at or hitting an opponent or a
person other than a match official;
j) at least four matches or an appropriate period of time for unsporting behaviour
towards a match official;
k) at least ten matches or an appropriate period of time for intimidating or
threatening a match official;
l) at least 15 matches or an appropriate period of time for assaulting a match
official, including elbowing, punching, kicking, biting, spitting or hitting
 
ladbroke8745 said:
But they've admitted it should be 3 games by saying its 3 but suspending 2 for 12 months on "good behaviour". Several reporters ive read have indicated it is because he has neve been sent off in 226 national team games.
The only other time they have reduced a ban, it seems, is when Zidane got let off after his headbutt in the WC final in 2006 but that was because he was retiring anyway and it was pointless, so was downgraded to community service.
They have said they will only act on the 2 games if he commits something similar in "gravity" to what he has done in this match. So again theyre saying what he done was bad but not bad enough to ban him properly.

But I assure you, if it was McGinn, Scotland would be without him for 3 games.
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I tend to agree, if it was someone else they might not have escaped the ban, but football pundits have been saying since his red card he wouldn't miss any world cup games, it doesn't come as any surprise. I'd compare it to Inter Miami being given a place in the club world club, it wasn't for sporting merit and rather was arguably to make sure Messi was in the competition. It stinks, but that is FIFA for you. There's an argument to say it is actually bad for Portugal, they look so much better when he doesn't play, and won their last game 9-1 without him, and his arrogance can kill the changing room mood.
 
bester said:
There were at least 3 cases off SFP in the club world cup. All suspended for 2 matches as per the regulations

14. MISCONDUCT OF PLAYERS AND OFFICIALS
1. Players and officials shall be suspended for misconduct as specified below and
may be fined accordingly:

h) at least three matches for violent conduct;
i) at least three matches or an appropriate period of time for assault, including
elbowing, punching, kicking, biting, spitting at or hitting an opponent or a
person other than a match official;
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So which of these two would a red card for violent conduct would this fall under?
 
The fact that FIFA or other footballing bodies have provisioned it in their documentation doesn't excuse it. They are just covering their own butt for when they don't want to apply fair rules because it is not in their financial interest.
 
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