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pdhmobile

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Under 14 player shouted SNAP HIM as a player went past a couple of players.

YC and IDFK from where the player who shouted was stood.

Ax nice easy decision for me
 
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Sometimes I hear things like that but it's hard to pin point exactly who said it, which is frustrating.

How strict are you all on it, what about get stuck in, don't let them past no matter what, don't let him go past 3 of us?

Thoughts
 
pdhmobile said:
How strict are you all on it, what about get stuck in, don't let them past no matter what, don't let him go past 3 of us?
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The middle one would very much depend on tone and context of the game up to that point. The other two don’t insinuate violence at all for me so I’ve no issue with them.
(And well done for the handling of the initial comment in the OP)
 
pdhmobile said:
Sometimes I hear things like that but it's hard to pin point exactly who said it, which is frustrating.

How strict are you all on it, what about get stuck in, don't let them past no matter what, don't let him go past 3 of us?

Thoughts
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For me, all three of those phrases fall just the acceptable side of the line. None of them clearly advocate anything worse than a Careless Foul
 
Judge every challenge on its merits but some pre-meditated “encouragement” from a team-mate, coach, etc will notch the decision up from me tbh.
 
pdhmobile said:
Under 14 player shouted SNAP HIM as a player went past a couple of players.

YC and IDFK from where the player who shouted was stood.

Ax nice easy decision for me
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Not sure you got this one right in all honesty if from a player at that age I’m saying and doing nothing you may be in danger of being a version of last weeks ref if the team you gave a IDFK too start expecting this and then get a ref who’s not going to give it I would advise being careful and thinking of your fellow referees with things like this.
 
HonestRef said:
Not sure you got this one right in all honesty if from a player at that age I’m saying and doing nothing you may be in danger of being a version of last weeks ref if the team you gave a IDFK too start expecting this and then get a ref who’s not going to give it I would advise being careful and thinking of your fellow referees with things like this.
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Fellow referees may consider the player's comment as unsporting, as @pdhmobile has done. I do.
 
HonestRef said:
I suppose you could argue either way but as I said I would see you as last weeks ref
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On what basis? That is clearly a comment that can be seen as unsporting and warrant a caution. And the restart from the caution is an IFK. There is no question whatsoever that such a call would be correct in Law. (Perhaps we should talk about you as “last week’s ref” because you observe unsporting behavior and cannot be bothered to do anything about it?)
 
HonestRef said:
I suppose you could argue either way but as I said I would see you as last weeks ref
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I would say that the concept of 'last week's ref' is one that doesn't deal with situations correctly or adequately. This (however you choose to deal with) needs dealing with, can't let that sort of shout go at any level. Strong public rebuke or yellow card 100% here, every time.
 
es1 said:
I would say that the concept of 'last week's ref' is one that doesn't deal with situations correctly or adequately. This (however you choose to deal with) needs dealing with, can't let that sort of shout go at any level. Strong public rebuke or yellow card 100% here, every time.
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It’s not something you are explicitly required to deal with by law and it’s not what football expects so by doing so you create issues for next weeks ref so by definition are last weeks ref.
 
HonestRef said:
It’s not something you are explicitly required to deal with by law and it’s not what football expects so by doing so you create issues for next weeks ref so by definition are last weeks ref.
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Last week's ref is usually in the minority and is one that fails to take action, or takes the wrong action.

Based on this sample, that appears to be you.
 
JamesL said:
Last week's ref is usually in the minority and is one that fails to take action, or takes the wrong action.

Based on this sample, that appears to be you.
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I’d be wary of using Refchat referees as a representative sample of the the officiating population. In reality, I believe that the majority of U14 referees would completely ignore this comment … wrongly in my opinion.

@HonestRef , I understand that the decision might, in the above context, be unexpected. But in a world where player safety is / should be our number one priority, I hope you can see why the majority of dedicated, committed referees on this forum would be brave and take action.
 
Russell Jones said:
I’d be wary of using Refchat referees as a representative sample of the the officiating population. In reality, I believe that the majority of U14 referees would completely ignore this comment … wrongly in my opinion.
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Well, yes that's why I said this sample. 😊
 
In my view LWR is one that deliberately and knowingly doesn't apply the laws of the game (like ignoring jewellery or not cautioning mandatory cautions).

Genuitly interpreting the laws that are open to interpretation differently, doesn't constitue LWR in my book even if I don't agree with it.
 
one said:
In my view LWR is one that deliberately and knowingly doesn't apply the laws of the game (like ignoring jewellery or not cautioning mandatory cautions).

Genuitly interpreting the laws that are open to interpretation differently, doesn't constitue LWR in my book even if I don't agree with it.
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Definitely includes ignorance of expected application of law too which is perhaps unintended
 
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