Dicky Herts
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Well according to this thread it sounds like all CFAs will mandate it
Captain's Only
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Did they have to go to a meeting to find out that they can't referee without going into a meeting?
Meetings are great but they can't replace clear and timely communication that everyone has access to.
Unless I am missing something obvious though, I can't see anything in SCoR for it. A search for captain only pulls up two hits, one for the captain having to wear an armband and the other in the fine schedule for not wearing an armband. So I'm struggling to see how they will enforce it, especially as most leagues will have already been sanctioned.
I just assumed that's how they would make it mandatory from a rules perspective.
Yeah, that was my assumption as well, perhaps the law change came too late for the final version of SCoR. Without that in there I can't really see there being anything the FA can go if leagues say they don't want to use the captain only law.
ChasObserverRefDeveloper
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Please let me know when you sort this out - I am observing on Saturday
Either way it’s very confusing for grassroots referees. I’ve had leagues send out directives saying it will not be used, others asking referees whether they would like it to be used, and now hearsay that it is for everyone. Not sure it’s a very effective strategy!
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Unfortunately this is The FA to a tee. They’ve never ever been very good with comms. Which is somewhat ironic when you consider a big part of your own progression comes down to your admin. It really should not be difficult to advise who this does and doesn’t apply to. And the fact we’re even having this discussion, would suggest they’ve ball’sed it up
The year I got L3, they decided to set up a google drive with a load of vague documents. Practically no one had a clue how to access it or use it. Plus it looked really amateur and cheap.
Grass roots leagues won't start for at least a month, think all we can do is hold fire and see what clarifications come out. Sadly comms isn't a strong point of the FA, and I fully suspect one area has made a decision without speaking to the other, if so they will now be scrambling around trying to work out what to do.
Archer
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CLOSING DATE!Please let me know when you sort this out - I am observing on Saturday
The referee portal is absolutely rubbish! So many parts of it clearly have not been thought through.
1. Cannot delete games if you put in a team erroneously
2. Cannot edit cards
3. Unclear when it is submitted or not
4. Having to re-authenticate with email every time you use is it silly
It baffles me how they can bring this in with so many issues. Baffles, not surprises.
1. Cannot delete games if you put in a team erroneously
2. Cannot edit cards
3. Unclear when it is submitted or not
4. Having to re-authenticate with email every time you use is it silly
It baffles me how they can bring this in with so many issues. Baffles, not surprises.
Archer
🟨 C1 (BE)
Whole (game) thing is complete dogshit tbh. Been trying to approve player registrations all morning...
Also done number 1. Also failed to remove. Will no doubt haunt me for the rest of this season.
afronaut81
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Captains only is indeed becoming mandatory for Grassroots. County FAs have started rolling out comms on it eg Gloucester and Somerset
Our Step 7 feeder league has already met with the whole referee panel and the clubs from all divisions and explicitly stated that they will not be enforcing this rule but are ‘encouraging clubs to use it’. It’s caused a lot of confusion already and will cause even more so if it is going to be mandated. Season starts on Saturday.
Not disputing that.
I am raising the fact that this has clearly not been communicated very well which, quite frankly is poor.
Ultimately, as an L5, I have got to go and referee in Saturday potentially unclear on one of the laws - this does not help with people’s confidence in referees.
That is open to debate. If the FA want to mandate something they are supposed to put it into SCoR (Standard Code of Rules), if competitions then try to take it out they can refuse to sanction them until they put it back in. For reasons that aren't really known, although I would guess a lack of interdepartmental cooperation, this isn't in there. Leagues will have already had their rule sets sanctioned, therefore the following is true:
- The LoTG don't mandate the captains only law.
- SCoR, and the sanctioned competition's rules, don't mandate the captains only law.
Given this I am really struggling to see what the FA could do if leagues refused to adopt it.
Precise reason the league gave for not adopting it…
It was announced after their AGM and therefore not adopted as part of their rules.