L3 Induction - Warwick

[JamesL]

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Thread 'Fourth Official Duties'

Jul 1, 2025

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Fourth Official Duties - Fourth official

Materials issued to L3 referees in season 24/25 about 4th official duties.

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Thread 'Referee Comms kit guidance'

Jul 1, 2025

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Referee Comms kit guidance - Comms kit guidance

Materials issued to L3 referees in season 24/25

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[Runner Ref]

I wasn’t there so it’s not really fair to make comment. However, what I can say is that I can assure you that not only are there some L3’s and L2’s who are only average in managing a ceremonial free kick, but also very average when not to play Advantage. Also, I agree that drilling down on 4th official duties with the use of comms and the sub board would have been a good idea & i am sure Nathan & Ross would have wanted to happen, but not so easy to deliver with the probable requirement of comms kits (not just 1,2,3 or 4, but many so that it can be delivered to all in a reasonable period of time), but also the requirement of a sub board. Last year comms kits were available for the L2 training event at Warwick, though I suspect many are still being refurbished (again) following the many failures during last season. Although not ideal, assuming the 4th official arrives at the ground 90 or so mins before the game, there is an ideal opportunity to get used to the board (assuming that the club are still not charging it up etc).

In reality, those events are more induction events than they are development events. If you want to train referees on positioning/advantage and so on, hold a development day by all means.

But L4>L3 is a big step that involves a lot of different stuff than most will have been used to. So comms & 4th official training should be a fairly high ranking thing for them to be going through.

 

[RustyRef]

In reality, those events are more induction events than they are development events. If you want to train referees on positioning/advantage and so on, hold a development day by all means.

But L4>L3 is a big step that involves a lot of different stuff than most will have been used to. So comms & 4th official training should be a fairly high ranking thing for them to be going through.

Its quite a long time ago, but there were a lot of expected different behaviours between L4 and L3 and I only found out by observers and my coach telling me. Things like at L4 we were expected to go wide, at L3 we weren't. At L4 we should immediately signal advantage and pull back if necessary, at L3 we should only signal once it had accrued. At L4 we should signal every throw-in, at L3 only the ones we were leading on in the final 3rd. None of that was covered at the induction, but it would have been a lot more important than what was covered. From memory there was about 2 hours on what was and wasn't handball, and that was exactly the same between L4 and L3.

 

[Big Cat]

Its quite a long time ago, but there were a lot of expected different behaviours between L4 and L3 and I only found out by observers and my coach telling me. Things like at L4 we were expected to go wide, at L3 we weren't. At L4 we should immediately signal advantage and pull back if necessary, at L3 we should only signal once it had accrued. At L4 we should signal every throw-in, at L3 only the ones we were leading on in the final 3rd. None of that was covered at the induction, but it would have been a lot more important than what was covered. From memory there was about 2 hours on what was and wasn't handball, and that was exactly the same between L4 and L3.

Isn't that all just a load of tosh? (not what you're saying, but what your observers and coaches were indicating). Not that you're telling me anything I wouldn't have expected. Utter nonsense, all of it

Naturally, there's some adaptations needed as one progresses up the levels due to 'stadium/event refereeing' (and especially comms), but the absurdity of being told to do contradicting different stuff at every level is nuts