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Has nothing to do with referees at all, it's down to the offence committed and the local county FA's discipline panel, but there is a likelihood that they will have to miss a game/games also.
I issued a red card to a step 7 player who was also assistant manager for the same club's u18s a few years back. He had to miss a couple of games, but he wasn't allowed to play step 7 football until his ban for the u18s was served. He really appreciated that...
Edit to add: I actually work at the same company as this person, I tend to avoid him nowadays
I issued a red card to a step 7 player who was also assistant manager for the same club's u18s a few years back. He had to miss a couple of games, but he wasn't allowed to play step 7 football until his ban for the u18s was served. He really appreciated that...
Edit to add: I actually work at the same company as this person, I tend to avoid him nowadays
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Thank you, the only reason I ask is because on the 8th December i sent a manager off. This was their last game of 2024 and i have the same team on Sunday. Was just curious as to whether he should be on the sideline? I'm not concerned by him being there, not the first or last manager i'll RC, just never had a back-to-back fixture like this.
As @RefereeX said, the process doesn't concern the referee in the slightest. At grassroots/youth etc it isn't as simple as in the professional game, as teams often get given their fixtures weeks ahead, rather than being told the whole season in one go, and they may be involved with multiple teams. Usually they will get a ban if shown a red card though. It's different with coaches compared to players as a coach red card is counted as a standard charge I believe (I may have used the wrong terminology here), as opposed to just being classed as a red card.
Edit: just checked and it is player reds that are the standard charges, a coach is charged with misconduct after being shown a red card which is why it's more difficult to say.
Edit: just checked and it is player reds that are the standard charges, a coach is charged with misconduct after being shown a red card which is why it's more difficult to say.
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You used to be able to check who was/is banned online, but I'm not sure if its still the case. Either way, not necessarily something for you to worry about. Turn up & referee the game. If the manager has any sense, you won't even know they're there........
that would be amazing! If he calls me a cheat again he'll definitely be getting pinged again.Ping him again and see what happens. Report back
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The fines, suspension, and proccess are the league's responsibility. it does have an effect whether you turn in the incident in your match report or not.
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My local club’s U18 manager text me week before xmas asking exactly this - said I wasn’t aware of it on Full-Time.
Be mad if these two things were related
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Can't find the initial thing I was talking about, maybe doesn't exist anymore. But there is the below:My local club’s U18 manager text me week before xmas asking exactly this - said I wasn’t aware of it on Full-Time.
Be mad if these two things were related
FA charges - November 2024
Disciplinary responses, charges and suspensions for November 2024
www.thefa.com
If you are looking for what I think you're looking for, try this link:Can't find the initial thing I was talking about, maybe doesn't exist anymore. But there is the below:
FA charges - November 2024
Disciplinary responses, charges and suspensions for November 2024
The website for the English football association, the Emirates FA Cup and the England football team
Written Reasons Library - Want to know why a player or manager was suspended or a club was fined? Search our library of hearing decisions
www.thefa.com
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Aye, think thats a newer version of itIf you are looking for what I think you're looking for, try this link:
The website for the English football association, the Emirates FA Cup and the England football team
Written Reasons Library - Want to know why a player or manager was suspended or a club was fined? Search our library of hearing decisions
The OP is from Worcester, England rather than Worcester, Massachusetts, so I feel it necessary to point out that over here fines and suspensions related to cards or misconduct charges are nothing to do with the league - they are dealt with by the County FA.
I would say it's unlikely that he's been dealt with yet. Even if a misconduct charge had been sent out the very next day, the manager would have had 14 days to respond to the charge, and even presuming he promptly responded accepting the charge, Worcs FA were closed between Christmas and New Year, so I doubt there were any disciplinary commissions scheduled for that period.
The punishment would depend on the offence committed, the panel's judgement on where the offence lies within the sanction guidelines that are prescribed by The FA, and any mitigation/aggravation based on any previous offences, whether he pleaded guilty, etc. It's expected that for any team official being shown a red card there will be a minimum of a one match suspension unless there are exceptional circumstances.
Agree, and I would also add that there is a very big question mark as to whether a referee involved in a pending disciplinary case should be back refereeing that team. It isn't really fair on either party, and I'd be flagging it to whoever made the appointment to suggest a switch is made.
The ref's on a loser whether the case is resolved, or not. If he issues cards it will be wrong, if he doesn't issue cards it will be wrong. Avoid for the rest of the season.
I wonder if the ref sec is aware?
Agree, I would always try to keep referees away from clubs where there had been serious disciplinary cases, and certainly wouldn't be appointing them whilst there was ongoing disciplinary action. It is very unlikely to end well.
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County FAs are regional associations which administer football at grassroots level (within the rules set by The FA). All discipline up to and including level 9 of the English football pyramid is dealt with by the CFAs; level 8 and above is dealt with by The FA. All referees no matter what level have to register with their CFA every season.