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[RustyRef]

And if Sigurdsson didn’t think he was involved with the play, why did he pull his legs to his chest at the last minute?

Because if he didn't the ball would have hit them, but would then be a totally different offside situation (interfering with play)

 

[socal lurker]

based on his position, deliberately lifting/pulling his legs out of the way is, (IMO) "playing" the ball.

No. Playing the ball requires contact (see page 173). That's why they put the attempt and clear action language into the magic book.

 

[deusex]

As an aside. The Red card for Ancelotti seemed pretty weak. Looked like he just demanded an explanation.
Klopp and Pep will scream in refs' faces next week without sanction

 

[Sheffields Finest]

Are the PL still polishing turds on this or have they come out and apologised??

It’s about time Mossy was put out to the long grass I think! Take Taylor with him to keep him company! They’re miles off the pace this season!

 

[Big Cat]

As an aside. The Red card for Ancelotti seemed pretty weak. Looked like he just demanded an explanation.
Klopp and Pep will scream in refs' faces next week without sanction

They shouldn't be allowed to have TV cameras poked right in the face of the Officials on the FOP, just because the FT whistle has gone
CK looked like he'd just been chucked under the proverbial bus by his CCTV Assistant

 

[RustyRef]

They shouldn't be allowed to have TV cameras poked right in the face of the Officials on the FOP, just because the FT whistle has gone
CK looked like he'd just been chucked under the proverbial bus by his CCTV Assistant

It looked fairly civil to me and then Kavanagh reacts pretty quickly to go to his back pocket so I would guess something pretty bad has been said.

 

[Kes]

No. Playing the ball requires contact (see page 173). That's why they put the attempt and clear action language into the magic book.

Doesn't say that in the Laws that I can see. And page 173 talks about Goal Kicks. (?)

 

[Sheffields Finest]

Macmanamamamaan is absolute useless, how did that interview go???

 

[socal lurker]

Doesn't say that in the Laws that I can see. And page 173 talks about Goal Kicks. (?)

Oops, pulled the prior year book. See the definition of play in the glossary, now page 186. "makes contact with the ball."

 

[Sheffields Finest]

Manchester United have had the most VAR decisions overturned in their favour this season

No team in the Premier League has benefited more from VAR than Manchester United

www.givemesport.com

Maybe there is also a trend too when bigger noises are being made by bigger crowd bases!!!

 

[Sheffields Finest]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1234145843512565764

 

[Sheffields Finest]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1234171524623556611

When a VAR decision goes AWOL in a pub in Liverpool!!!

 

[afronaut81]

Manchester United have had the most VAR decisions overturned in their favour this season

No team in the Premier League has benefited more from VAR than Manchester United

www.givemesport.com

Maybe there is also a trend too when bigger noises are being made by bigger crowd bases!!!

The book Blowing the Whistle by Stuart Carrington investigates trends between ref decisions and crowd noise. There actually is correlation where stadiums with running tracks (where the crowd are further away) have less influence on referee decisions. Ie stadiums where the crowd is closer cause more incorrect decisions that favour the home team

 

[RustyRef]

Manchester United have had the most VAR decisions overturned in their favour this season

No team in the Premier League has benefited more from VAR than Manchester United

www.givemesport.com

Maybe there is also a trend too when bigger noises are being made by bigger crowd bases!!!

Apart from this one was at Goodison so I very much doubt the loudest noise was in favour of disallowing ....

 

[Sheffields Finest]

Apart from this one was at Goodison so I very much doubt the loudest noise was in favour of disallowing ....

It is strange though that the so called lesser teams seem to have suffered more... I'm sure there is no plan for this but it strange that the bigger teams seem to be luckier!!!

 

[Grayson]

Go 50/50 and give them half a goal instead. Problem solved

 

[santa sangria]

The book Blowing the Whistle by Stuart Carrington investigates trends between ref decisions and crowd noise. There actually is correlation where stadiums with running tracks (where the crowd are further away) have less influence on referee decisions. Ie stadiums where the crowd is closer cause more incorrect decisions that favour the home team

Yeah but some of the assumptions might be seriously flawed (no spoilers)

 

[santa sangria]

And if Sigurdsson didn’t think he was involved with the play, why did he pull his legs to his chest at the last minute?

Sage point.

I think it’s wrong to base the decision on line of sight. It’s inconsistent with previous very precise interpretation. I still think it’s an obvious enough action. But as @one points out... it is very harsh to say it ”clearly” affects.

Surely, this much doubt, benefit to attacker...

 

[Goldfish]

Without VAR offside given.

 

[Kes]

Oops, pulled the prior year book. See the definition of play in the glossary, now page 186. "makes contact with the ball."

Still not convinced.

Besides which, the book even gives an example of an incidence that should be penalised which is pretty much smack on what happened in this game.

It's easy to pick holes in a decision if we're going to resort to the definition of actual words. Anyway, since when was the IFAB book "clear" about anything.