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RefJef

RefJef

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U16 game this evening. 15 mins into second half white striker chases ball into six yard area - entitled to go for it, but keeper got there first and gathered the ball. So far, all good, but my sixth sense suggests something’s not right, so as all the other players (attackers & defenders) clear the area for the inevitable hoof upfield, I stay close, with “eyes on”

Retreating white striker, coming from behind keeper, knocks the ball out of the keepers hand (with his hand - try and imagine him punching the ball upwards from below.)

Keeper obviously a bit peeved, grabs shirt of white attacker - suddenly looks like it all get quite nasty quite quickly,

Anyway, I’m blasting on the whistle, one or two others consider joining in, but swiftly see the error their ways. All calms down. I call players over, book them both (& to be fair, white coach then instantly subs his cautioned striker). Restart With DFK to keeper’s team. Game continues, no great drama.

Anyway, have just put the cards through - the keeper was easy, USB, AA. The striker less so. I put his through as USB, HandBall, because he did handle the ball, but it doesn’t seem to do the incident justice. I considered delaying restart, but the ball wasn’t out of play, so not appropriate, I also thought about USB “other”.

Any thoughts?

Thanks

J
 
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I assume you restarted with a dfk for keeper?
And would you have cautioned for the hb offence had there not been the afters?
If yes to both the HB no issue.
Otherwise AA would have it covered.
Fwiw i dont think the code changes much here.
 
You can also use "shows a lack of respect for the game". What he did was far from the spirit of the game.
 
one said:
You can also use "shows a lack of respect for the game". What he did was far from the spirit of the game.
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(Unless I missed it) I don’t think that that is an option code when submitting a report on the Whole Game System. It is the (main) reason I cautioned him,

Probably should have put it under “Other Reasons”, but agree with others, could have done AA, but think Hand Ball is still valid.

Anyway, shan’t lose any sleep over it, as ever , thanks for all advice and suggestions.
 
RefJef said:
(Unless I missed it) I don’t think that that is an option code when submitting a report on the Whole Game System. It is the (main) reason I cautioned him,

Probably should have put it under “Other Reasons”, but agree with others, could have done AA, but think Hand Ball is still valid.

Anyway, shan’t lose any sleep over it, as ever , thanks for all advice and suggestions.
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Fair enough. I don't use whole Game but I find it interesting that AA is not a lotg USB reason and it's in there but a USB reason that is explecit in lotg is not in there.
 
one said:
Fair enough. I don't use whole Game but I find it interesting that AA is not a lotg USB reason and it's in there but a USB reason that is explecit in lotg is not in there.
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So basically we have several c (caution) codes.

C1, c2 blah blah.
C1 is unsporting behaviour. When c1 is selected a secondary code is required by the FA as to a more exact nature of the offence. Examples of the second code are TR (Trip) HB (Handball) FT (foul tackle) to name a few. In that list we have UB (unspecified behaviour) which would be where shows lack of respect for game would fit in.

All other c codes are straight forwards and dont require any other explanation.
 
The full C1 codes for my forms are:

AA (Aggressive attitude)
CO (Charging an opponent)
GC (Goal celebration)
HB (Deliberate handball)
OB (Obstruction)
PP (Pushing or pulling an opponent)
RT (Reckless tackle)
SI (Simulation)
TR (Tripping an opponent)
UB (Other Unsporting Behaviour - Specify)
 
AFAIK the codes are only used by the FA for data analysis. The C1 code for USB covers a multitude of sins and it sounds as though they want to have more fine grained analysis. I don't believe it's used anywhere else but in England.
 
RobOda said:
The full C1 codes for my forms are:

AA (Aggressive attitude)
CO (Charging an opponent)
GC (Goal celebration)
HB (Deliberate handball)
OB (Obstruction)
PP (Pushing or pulling an opponent)
RT (Reckless tackle)
SI (Simulation)
TR (Tripping an opponent)
UB (Other Unsporting Behaviour - Specify)
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Are you under the Welsh FA?
The FA don't have CO, OB, RT, or SI, but they do have DI, DP, RP and SP
DP (dangerous play) is particularly difficult to reconcile with Law 12. I take it to mean dangerous play not involving contact or excessive force/brutality, but it would be helpful if these codes were entirely consistent with the Law
 
Big Cat said:
Are you under the Welsh FA?
The FA don't have CO, OB, RT, or SI, but they do have DI, DP, RP and SP
DP (dangerous play) is particularly difficult to reconcile with Law 12. I take it to mean dangerous play not involving contact or excessive force/brutality, but it would be helpful if these codes were entirely consistent with the Law
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Yes, Wales. :)
 
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