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Vaping linesman at U12?

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You are outside right, big open field, grass? The kids aren't exactly close to the lino, assuming it is a club lino (so a parent most likely). They are helping you out.

Don't try and overmanage in my opinion. If anyone complains, or if you see him doing right next to the kids have a word more from a "don't be a idiot" stance. But I just don't see a massive safe guarding issue. People smoke outside.

Doesn't look very professional, but like me you're a Level 7 so these things happen at this level IMO.
 
Nothing to see here...

Unlike the incident that lead me to find this site... Where a substitute was smoking cannabis in the dugout. 😬
I can't think of the last Sunday League game I did where people weren't smoking weed. Just the way it is in certain parts of the country now but thankfully no dugouts so I just leave them to it. I turn up changed too so never use any of the changing rooms and therefore dont see them all smoking weed in there too.

As for the vaping (and smoking etc), if it's out in the open and they're CARs then just leave them to it. We're not the morality police. Don't go looking for issues that aren't there.
 
Our local FA operate a smokefree sidelines policy where no smoking / vaping is permitted within the view of youth players and close to 50 clubs have signed up to the scheme so I'd feel obliged to ask them to stop and refer them to the large banner we have in place to reinforce it.
 
Our local FA operate a smokefree sidelines policy where no smoking / vaping is permitted within the view of youth players and close to 50 clubs have signed up to the scheme so I'd feel obliged to ask them to stop and refer them to the large banner we have in place to reinforce it.
Makes sense to have such an initiative at youth football (although i doubt its the referee whoa responsible for upholding this). But at mens football, forget it
 
Our local FA operate a smokefree sidelines policy where no smoking / vaping is permitted within the view of youth players and close to 50 clubs have signed up to the scheme so I'd feel obliged to ask them to stop and refer them to the large banner we have in place to reinforce it.
Sorry, not your concern. This is getting you involved in something which only has down sides for you. It is the club which should be managing the smokefree rules - what are you going to do to stop him? Caution him / order him away from the sideline / abandon the game? None of these are suitable, so best referring to the Home club officials if anybody says anything.
 
Sorry, not your concern. This is getting you involved in something which only has down sides for you. It is the club which should be managing the smokefree rules - what are you going to do to stop him? Caution him / order him away from the sideline / abandon the game? None of these are suitable, so best referring to the Home club officials if anybody says anything.

That's interesting. I'm only recently qualified so very new to this, but I would have assumed (maybe wrongly) that once a person takes on the role of CAR I should expect a certain level of behaviour from them?

For example, what could I do if they are drinking a can of beer or swearing?

Would it be be something I should report after the game?
 
That's interesting. I'm only recently qualified so very new to this, but I would have assumed (maybe wrongly) that once a person takes on the role of CAR I should expect a certain level of behaviour from them?

For example, what could I do if they are drinking a can of beer or swearing?

Would it be be something I should report after the game?

If they're actually looking at the field of play and not their phone and are within 10m of the 2nd to last defender then consider yourself lucky. Expect absolutely nothing from CARs nd if you get a good one then consider yourself lucky. They're getting £0 and 99% of the time don't want to be doing it.

As for swearing, if its adult football then who gives a ****. Again, we're not the morality police, it's not for us to regulate their behaviour outside of behaviour that effects the match itself..if somebody wants to spend his afternoon swearing on a public park (as long as its not dissent towards yourself or racist/homophones etc) then thats there business. I would suggest reading u on the guidelines that are out then on when to report things and actions to take but aside from what I've just mentioned I'm afraid it's not our business. Turn up, referee to the best of your ability, get paid, go home. :)
 
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Thanks guys. Instinctively feels like something I shouldn't be involved in at this level. I asked the question in case I was missing one of my duties...
 
Thanks guys. Instinctively feels like something I shouldn't be involved in at this level. I asked the question in case I was missing one of my duties...
Perfectly good question to ask. I'm afraid I didn't read the headline properly and now I see that it's at u12 level, so you shouldn't get too many issues I wouldn't have thought...
 
If they're actually looking at the field of play and not their phone and are within 10m of the 2nd to last defender then consider yourself lucky. Expect absolutely nothing from CARs nd if you get a good one then consider yourself lucky. They're getting £0 and 99% of the time don't want to be doing it.

As for swearing, if its adult football then who gives a ****. Again, we're not the morality police, it's not for us to regulate their behaviour outside of behaviour that effects the match itself..if somebody wants to spend his afternoon swearing on a public park (as long as its not dissent towards yourself or racist/homophones etc) then thats there business. I would suggest reading u on the guidelines that are out then on when to report things and actions to take but aside from what I've just mentioned I'm afraid it's not our business. Turn up, referee to the best of your ability, get paid, go home. :)

Wholeheartedly agree at open age. Potential safeguarding issues obviously have to be taken into account at a youth level which is where I spend my time.
 
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