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Southend-ref

Southend United Supporter
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Is this the wrong decision? For me there was a player covering so it was not an 'obvious goal scoring opportunity'.
 
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For me the referee got it spot on, while I agree with the covering defender the attacking player ws in the middle of taking his shot and therefore DOGSO.
 
Tough one! Think I'd give a penalty and yellow because he would of needed a touch before shooting which would of meant the second defender would of then been in a position to make a tackle. I did have to watch it three times though.lol :confused:
 
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Reffy said:
Tough one! Think I'd give a penalty and yellow because he would of needed a touch before shooting which would of meant the second defender would of then been in a position to make a tackle. I did have to watch it three times though.lol :confused:
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Agree with the whole watching three times thig - I hold nothing against the ref for giving red, I just think that on balance it was probably not DOGSO.
 
Had a coaching session from the powers that be using this clipand we were all in no doubt red for DOGSO since had the player not came in he could quite easily have scored either first time or having taken a touch.

Not so sure in the signalling for the penalty though, bit like karate chop haha.
 
Tough one. Personally, I'd have gone for penalty and yellow, for no other reason than the covering defender may have been in a decent position to make a challenge. Having said that, I think it's one of those that everyone will see differently, so I definitely don't think the ref got it 'wrong' as such.
 
This is an interesting clip personally as I was not only at the game (away stand, far end of the stadium) but the clip was used at a meeting of our association recently. At the time and after I disagreed with the red card, perhaps as I was thinking more as a supporter at the time, and the different angles did little to change my mind. At the meeting, however, it was confirmed by several Cat. 1 guys that both calls (penalty and red card) were correct. The explanation was that the player would have had a free shot at goal had the tackling defender (a) not been there or (b) not committed a challenge. Although it's important to take into account other defenders, or a 'last man', the presence of such a player does not immediately rule out DOGSO taking place. I don't necessarily agree with the decision (as a supporter and a referee) but the explanation given makes sense and I can see it from both sides.
 
I think the mistake that people make (and I defer to refs with more experience than I) is that the offence of DOGSO refers to the "opportunity" to score. DOGSO doesn't mean that you have denied the player the obvious goal, merely the opportunity to score it. The "covering" player doesn't really come into it in my view, because, by taking the player out you have denied him the opportunity to score, and at the time of the offence, the covering player wasn't really in a position to prevent a shot were it to be taken.
 
Mick. said:
I think the mistake that people make (and I defer to refs with more experience than I) is that the offence of DOGSO refers to the "opportunity" to score. DOGSO doesn't mean that you have denied the player the obvious goal, merely the opportunity to score it. The "covering" player doesn't really come into it in my view, because, by taking the player out you have denied him the opportunity to score, and at the time of the offence, the covering player wasn't really in a position to prevent a shot were it to be taken.
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If you watch the video again, you can see that the attacker takes a touch to the left just before he is fouled, which in my view would have taken him into the path of the covering defender and so it would not have been an obvious goal scoring opportunity.
 
We are told that to judge DOGSO, ask the question 'could his next touch have been a shot on goal?'

Regardless of where the last man is, covering defender is, angle of run etc - if he could shoot, it's a opportunity to score.
 
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