Offside from an advantage

[CA]

Having a discussion with a fellow referee about a situation.

If you play the advantage for a foul near the halfway line (denying a promising attack), the ball then breaks to another attacker who is running towards the goal. The attacker then crosses the ball to a player in an offside position. Do you bring that ball back to the original foul at the halfway line, or do you give the offside?

 

[refdave83]

I would give the offside.
Your playing a dangerous game - you should wait no more than 3-4 seconds before bringing it back. Clear advantage but the striker was offside. His fault.
IDFK for offside to defence.
Oh and make sure you have big arms and shout ADVANTAGE

 

[Mick.]

I would give the offside. You played the advantage when the ball broke to the attacker. The fact that he buggered it up does not reflect on the fact you have given the advantage. If he had taken a shot and miss kicked it, scuffing it to the side, you wouldn't pull the ball back for the foul then would you?

 

[Dave87]

I would give the offside, you can play the advantage for I would say a max of 4-5 seconds. If the attacking player is caught offside then its his own fault.

 

[ASM]

Offside. Advantage has accrued by virtue of the attack continuing. The fact the player is offside from a subsequent cross is the players fault and we shouldn't be looking to give them a second chance.

 

[DanCohen17]

I voted before reading the post, just the question (use my mod powers to change it?)

Based on your scenario (A is fouled, ball breaks to B who runs and crosses to C who's in offside position), I'd give the offside.

If the middle is taken out (A is fouled, ball breaks to B for attack, but he's in offside position), I'd give the free-kick for lack of advantage.

 

[Yourereffingjoking]

I'd blow for the offside.

The advantage is letting the attack go, if that team is then offside that doesn't mean that you didn't give them the advantage, simply that they failed to make proper use of it.

 

[Ryan Owens]

If the ball goes directly to someone in an offside position, then call the foul; if the ball falls to a teammate of the fouled player who then passes to a player in an offside position, it's offside. Not your fault he decided to be daft.

 

[MattyontheWhistle]

tricky one, and it would depend if I have called the advantage or not. I tend to wait the full count of three or four before signalling, because in my mind, once I have signaled and called it - it ain't gonna be pulled back.

As a player, I never liked a ref who called advantage but then blew up. As a ref, I think it appears there is indecision and 'flaky' calls. I know it's OK to do so in the LOTG but sticking to your decisions is also important.

I'm happy to leave it a few seconds, then blow up saying 'No advantage, FK back here please', but if I've called it, it stands.

 

[Ryan Owens]

I actually take the opposite tact -- I give the advantage signal and call it out almost as soon as I can so that the player who has been fouled doesn't get upset as he is prone to doing. I like to look at it like this: if I'm going to piss someone off, I'd rather it be the person who has actually done something wrong than the person who has been the victim of something wrong.