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Ross

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Kieron Gibbs has just been sent off when it should have been Oxlade-Chamberlain. Oh dear
 
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A big oh dear! He's also just allowed Vermalaen to come on as a sub and immediately take a throw-in. A players' first action in the match after being subbed on cannot be taking a corner or throw. :P
 
One for tomorrow morning upon receiving any complaints: "see that yesterday, even the best **** it up from time to time" :)

I guess that Gibbs will have his red rescinded, but will Ox-C be given one retrospectively?
 
One for tomorrow morning upon receiving any complaints: "see that yesterday, even the best **** it up from time to time" :)

I guess that Gibbs will have his red rescinded, but will Ox-C be given one retrospectively?

I would guess so. Especially as Ox clearly went up to the ref after he sent Gibbs off and can be seen saying "ref, it was me". Assistant talking to Arsene Wenger seemed to agree but bottled telling the ref, I think.
 
Linesman who told him though. They should've both known who it was, but it was the liner who told him.
He's also just allowed Vermalaen to come on as a sub and immediately take a throw-in. A players' first action in the match after being subbed on cannot be taking a corner or throw. :p

They can, as long as he has come onto the field of play, he has to step onto it before taking it :rolleyes:
 
They can, as long as he has come onto the field of play, he has to step onto it before taking it :rolleyes:

That's wrong. I was told by a level 4 referee who was an instructor that a substitute cannot take a throw or a corner if it's their first action in the match. It would be okay for them to be subbed on, have a team mate take a shot and win a corner and then take it, but if they are subbed on at that break in play then they cannot take the throw/corner. It's in the rule book somewhere too (although I don't have the magic book right now), unless the rule has been removed in the last year. It was there to stop players from bringing on throwing/corner "specialists" specifically for that purpose. A stupid rule albeit IMO, but still a rule. I remember specifically reading it as they explained to us.
 
I've just had a quick read and can't see it anywhere.

I can remember being at a FL game, and a player came on, was about to take the throw in (on the same touchline as where the sub was being made) and the ref walked over and made him step onto the pitch, then off so he could take the throw in.

Law says once a player has stepped onto the FOP he becomes an active player.
 
Did Vermaelen step on the pitch, then?

Come on, Evan, give it up, your level 4 ref did you wrong on this one :)
 
Happened to Preston earlier in the season - wrong man sent off, red card rescinded, right man banned.

The interesting thing in this case might be if the video shows the ball wasn't going into the net. Can they really give a player a retrospective red card for DOGSO when it wasn't even going to be a goal?

As for subs immediately taking throws/corners, the interpretation of Law 3 states:
A substitute who has not completed the substitution procedure by setting foot on to the field of play cannot restart play by taking a throw-in or corner kick.

Seems pretty pointless but one worth remembering for assessments, I suppose.
 
I never trust MOTD pundits on refereeing but on this one I really don't know. They were saying that he cannot change his mind (i.e. say sorry lads, and then send of AOC instead). Is this correct that you can't change this - what would you do if you sent a player off and then someone told you it was them? You sound like a d*ckhead if you don't change it but they could do it tactically if their best player is the perpetrator and their worst player said it was them.
 
The reason being because it was going wide I think
 
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