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Jon Moss...City v Liverpool

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Matthew

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Not a rant about a decision or his performance in general, but saw something yesterday that genuinely made me angry.

As we all know, the PGMOL refs don't seem to deal with certain offences. After Liverpool scored their fourth yesterday, Joe Hart decided to storm towards him, gesticulating, pointing and just generally having a go. No idea what it was about. Moss told him to go away two or three times, he carried on; nailed on caution for dissent. What did he do? Absolutely NOTHING.

Incidents like that are exactly why the players we all ref week in week out think it's ok to behave in that way.

Weak refereeing as far as I'm concerned.
 
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Perhaps he was asking if he knew why City were so awful. I'd only got two real talking points - the advantage which ended with a Liverpool player on the edge of the box, given plenty of time by defenders, who then just misplaced his pass and gave it to a City player, and still got the FK as well. And the AR on the west side (camera side) who really didn't seem that bothered about being level with second last defender.
 
Matthew said:
Not a rant about a decision or his performance in general, but saw something yesterday that genuinely made me angry.

As we all know, the PGMOL refs don't seem to deal with certain offences. After Liverpool scored their fourth yesterday, Joe Hart decided to storm towards him, gesticulating, pointing and just generally having a go. No idea what it was about. Moss told him to go away two or three times, he carried on; nailed on caution for dissent. What did he do? Absolutely NOTHING.

Incidents like that are exactly why the players we all ref week in week out think it's ok to behave in that way.

Weak refereeing as far as I'm concerned.
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Joe Hart sticks the head on refs and gets away with it!
 
Matthew said:
Not a rant about a decision or his performance in general, but saw something yesterday that genuinely made me angry.

As we all know, the PGMOL refs don't seem to deal with certain offences. After Liverpool scored their fourth yesterday, Joe Hart decided to storm towards him, gesticulating, pointing and just generally having a go. No idea what it was about. Moss told him to go away two or three times, he carried on; nailed on caution for dissent. What did he do? Absolutely NOTHING.

Incidents like that are exactly why the players we all ref week in week out think it's ok to behave in that way.

Weak refereeing as far as I'm concerned.
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Jon used to be a primary school headmaster. I think his tolerance level for the older children is a little too high at times.
 
Brian Hamilton said:
Ask Michael about that and he'll tell you he turned into JH's face and it's a bad camera angle.
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I saw the incident live and for me anyone running 30 yards to snarl at me and stick their head close enough that I can "turn into it" is walking.
To not even caution is bordering on cowardice.
I will admit to being biased as I'm not a fan of MO as I don't believe he's where he is on merit (something impossible to prove either way unfortunately)
 
Brian Hamilton said:
Ask Michael about that and he'll tell you he turned into JH's face and it's a bad camera angle.
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Just like they can't hear the abuse screamed at them from a few feet away because of the crowd noise....

Just another pathetic excuse so they can keep whoring themselves, and their principles, out to the Premier League each week.
 
Yep, that's a bald-faced lie about not hearing the abuse.But to be fair, over-tolerance of dissent has now infected every level of the game. Absolutely no reason to not have zero tolerance on dissent.

I was at an annual referee's seminar once and the head of Football Federation Australia was there, saying even the A-League referees (top, professional comp) were told to get tough on dissent, and any visual dissent (eg flapping arms around while arguing) would be met with a card. Even at that meeting there were a couple of A League referees who were officiating that night. Not surprisingly, there were multiple players mobbing referees, running up to them, yelling and swearing, flapping arms, and nothing. I'm just sick of the lies - and they come from assessors too. All new referees are told to get tough on X and Y, but the dirty little secret is that assessors, particularly the higher ones, don't actually want you to do squat. They want you to 'manage' the game, whatever the heck that means. Which is why getting to the top ranks doesn't actually have anything to do with how well you referee, and is simply how arrogant yet charismatic you are on the field.

At least it is in Australia.
 
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