Foul on Messi?

[and050610]

@Viridis1886 is spot on.

Holding offences that start outside the PA and continue into the penalty area are penalty kicks.

Any other foul: trip, push, kick, strike etc are at the point of contact.

If there are multiple attempts to foul, for example 2 attempts to trip, one outside the PA and one inside, then you can (effectively) play advantage and award a penalty kick for the 2nd offence, but this is 2 offences rather than a continuation of 1 offence as with holding.

I have a question. Should the foul on messi at 6:28 of this video be a free kick or penalty ? For me it's to difficult to call. Here's the link of the video:

 

[and050610]

@Viridis1886 is spot on.

Holding offences that start outside the PA and continue into the penalty area are penalty kicks.

Any other foul: trip, push, kick, strike etc are at the point of contact.

If there are multiple attempts to foul, for example 2 attempts to trip, one outside the PA and one inside, then you can (effectively) play advantage and award a penalty kick for the 2nd offence, but this is 2 offences rather than a continuation of 1 offence as with holding.

Hi just click on watch on YouTube even when it says the video is unavailable you will see the video

 

[one]

First time reading this thread.

Key is not to overthink this. KISS. There can be multiple contacts in a single foul and often is. Give the foul for the first point of contact (except holding).

If it can be split into two fouls, it will be very obvous. If you have to think about it, then it is very likely a single foul. For it to be two fouls it has to be clearly distinguishable actions with a phase of play in between (however short or long).

Foul on Messi is a single foul with multiple contacts. First contact is outside so a DFK.

 

[santa sangria]

Best advice (from a champo AR) - don’t break the team!

Say what you want constructively in private - but on the field, to teams, your creative challenge as AR is to support your referee any way you can.

 

[ARF]

First time reading this thread.

Key is not to overthink this. KISS. There can be multiple contacts in a single foul and often is. Give the foul for the first point of contact (except holding).

If it can be split into two fouls, it will be very obvous. If you have to think about it, then it is very likely a single foul. For it to be two fouls it has to be clearly distinguishable actions with a phase of play in between (however short or long).

Foul on Messi is a single foul with multiple contacts. First contact is outside so a DFK.

I'd be a little wary of this approach - the first point of contact might not necessarily the point at which a foul actually occurs!

 

[one]

I'd be a little wary of this approach - the first point of contact might not necessarily the point at which a foul actually occurs!

Agreed but point missed (pun intended).

 

[Jorik0907]

I have a question. Should the foul on messi at 6:28 of this video be a free kick or penalty ? For me it's to difficult to call. Here's the link of the video:

Looks like it's well outside so a free kick.
That season a FK might as well have been a pk for Messi, so no big difference there

 

[JamesL]

This was opened on a dead Thread so have merged into its own thread

 

[and050610]

Looks like it's well outside so a free kick.
That season a FK might as well have been a pk for Messi, so no big difference there

I thought there might be contact on the line tho

 

[JamesL]

I thought there might be contact on the line tho

The initial contact is reasonably clear that it outside the box. The additional contact is incidental.
Only holding offences can be penalised for the holding continuing into the penalty area. Everywhere else it's the initial point of contact of the foul unless there is a secondary offence/new contact that penalising would be of benefit to the non-offending team.